Reply to: Not bad Obama!

[shaunbhoy]

The man paid the unltimate price of Police incompetence..lets leave it at that.

Quite possibly, but it is a price he would not have paid had he left the country when he should have. Silly little point but it does seem to matter.

[HairyArsedBloke]

This thread is about Hitler

"Not Bad Obama" - Yeah close enough.

[TimberWolf]

Totally agree. I'm at BT and the contractors have been cut to the bare bones and replaced with cheap labour that can't do the job properly but the bean counters at the top are loving it (until they actually need to deliver something to the client then the tulip hits the fan)

This thread is about Hitler

[Sausage Surprise]

Nice little opener - obv the Indians arent happy



Cost Advantage to India? LOL What about the cost incurred to manage the disaster they create!

Now if only we had a gutsy Prime Minister who could tax those companies in the UK for offshoring.

Anti competition? Sod that! Its about looking after your tax payers!

Totally agree. I'm at BT and the contractors have been cut to the bare bones and replaced with cheap labour that can't do the job properly but the bean counters at the top are loving it (until they actually need to deliver something to the client then the tulip hits the fan)

[Francko]

We've covered that many times over....The man paid the unltimate price of Police incompetence..lets leave it at that.

It still didn't pass Shaunbhoy denial of basic human rights.

[threaded]

That is a very good question. The Japs did have another real strategic option.
Instead of attacking the USA as a means to securing the oil. Stop the big fleet movements, concentrate even more forces to defeat China. After China , pick up the Pacific pieces left of the British empire after Adolf has UBoated them into oblivion.
If the Brits are still hanging on, mobilise a part of the fleet against them, leaving the USA with one big dilemma.

One of the sticking points in the Versailles treaty was about free movement of ships at sea. Britain didn't like it, but the yanks did.

Comes back to the Versailles treaty whichever way you want to look at it.

[EternalOptimist]

Actually, you could argue that had the USA not moved their fleet HQ from San Diego to Pearl Harbour, the USA/Japan bit of WW2 would never have happened. The Pearl Harbour attack wouldn't have happened in San Diego because the surprise element wouldn't have been there, and wherever else in the Pacific Rim the Japanese attacked they knew the the US Pacific Fleet would be too much of a threat...so if they couldn't knock out the US Pacific Fleet a la Pearl Harbour, would they have started a fight?

That is a very good question. The Japs did have another real strategic option.
Instead of attacking the USA as a means to securing the oil. Stop the big fleet movements, concentrate even more forces to defeat China. After China , pick up the Pacific pieces left of the British empire after Adolf has UBoated them into oblivion.
If the Brits are still hanging on, mobilise a part of the fleet against them, leaving the USA with one big dilemma.

[lilelvis2000]

You mean a Brazilian electrician that was in the country illegally? A fact that often gets missed.

We've covered that many times over....The man paid the unltimate price of Police incompetence..lets leave it at that.

[threaded]

Out of interest, could you please remind me the date when the USA declared war on Germany (presumably because of Versailles)

IIRC America declared war on Germany shortly after Germany declared war on America because America had declared war on Japan. Yet one should remember that at the time Germany accused America of waging war on them since 1937.

[EternalOptimist]

I thought it was Germany that declared war on the USA, after Pearl Harbour.

damn that wolf. gazumped again

[TimberWolf]

Out of interest, could you please remind me the date when the USA declared war on Germany (presumably because of Versailles)

I thought it was Germany that declared war on the USA, after Pearl Harbour.

[PM-Junkie]

Actually, you could argue that had the USA not moved their fleet HQ from San Diego to Pearl Harbour, the USA/Japan bit of WW2 would never have happened. The Pearl Harbour attack wouldn't have happened in San Diego because the surprise element wouldn't have been there, and wherever else in the Pacific Rim the Japanese attacked they knew the the US Pacific Fleet would be too much of a threat...so if they couldn't knock out the US Pacific Fleet a la Pearl Harbour, would they have started a fight?

[BrilloPad]

You do realise that the resulting protectionism and nationalism that arose out of the great depression is blamed for causing the Second World War don't you?

Be careful what you wish for.

If we only protect against India it will be fine.....

[EternalOptimist]

Oh, just noticed this. There was more than just an oil embargo. That was but the latest in at least 50 years worth of provocations.

In much the same way as poking even the most placid animal with a sharp stick will eventually cause it to bite you, apparently without warning...



you seem to want it both ways

[EternalOptimist]

Oh, just noticed this. There was more than just an oil embargo. That was but the latest in at least 50 years worth of provocations.

Out of interest, could you please remind me the date when the USA declared war on Germany (presumably because of Versailles)