Reply to: Buying the landlord a drink

[realityhack]

Ok, look, how about this - following your logic "have a drink on me means drink" then landlord opens bottle of £10k wine, takes small glass and then comes to you to charge you the rest, how you'd like that?

The whole point of right and proper convention of "have a drink too" is to have limited liability meaning of "take a fixed tip - £1 from remaining money that you need to return to me".

It seems to me people up norf are more russional here

Most people who actually drink in bars know the score here. d000hg just about summed it up nicely. You wouldn't normally offer the bar staff a drink unless you were a regular. In other cases you'd just leave some change on the bar, or table if it's table-service.
Landlords would normally be included in a round, in these cases, i.e. 'what do you want, mate, a pint of the usual?'
Limited liability meaning??? Proper convention??? What planet do you live on? You must be popular at your local.

[EternalOptimist]

And in some English pubs, the guvnor himself (who is your social equal at least, unless you are a duke or better) may actually decline if he doesn't know you.

In Liverpool, the phrase is 'take yer own love' or 'get one yerself der'
that means take a quid out of the change. If anyone ever tried to get themselves an actual drink, or take a few quids, they would get battered.

'hey. worrayerthinkyerfkingdoinlike'

[expat]

AtW you are wrong. If you want to tip, buy your drinks, get the change and visibly put some of it on the counter as a tip. Just like in a restaurant. I would only invite the bar-man to "have one yourself" in a pub I know well, that's more a gesture of friendship than tipping for good service.

And in some English pubs, the guvnor himself (who is your social equal at least, unless you are a duke or better) may actually decline if he doesn't know you.

[AtW]

You really are taking the biscuit with your crap today, aren't you?

Now that you mentioned Lunch it's time for me to...

[sasguru]

Ok, look, how about this - following your logic "have a drink on me means drink" then landlord opens bottle of £10k wine, takes small glass and then comes to you to charge you the rest, how you'd like that?

The whole point of right and proper convention of "have a drink too" is to have limited liability meaning of "take a fixed tip - £1 from remaining money that you need to return to me".

It seems to me people up norf are more russional here

You really are taking the biscuit with your crap today, aren't you?

[Not So Wise]

Had a weird experience in the USA a few years ago. Being a Brit, I am not a heavy tipper, just the odd 'keep the change' once a night, so that the barmaid serves you quicker than the plebs.

In a jazz bar in Memphis, I went to get the fourth round in, the barmen wouldnt serve me. He just stood there looking at me for a few seconds, then he says

'What have I done to offend you ? am I not serving you properly ? is the beer not good ?'
'WTF ???'
'Well you havn't tipped me once, we dont get paid and we rely on tips to make our living. 10% is typical'

So I gave him a tip but it took the shine off the day

UK: For bars my general rule these days (since passable minimum wage was put in) is unless there is table service I don't tip (exceptions made for attentive pretty bar maids ) as the staff are getting paid by the establishment
Also don't buy staff/owner a drink unless I know the place and the staff, aka that it will be actually drunk, not converted into a "tip"

USA: Totally different system, in many places staff get paid zilch or virtually zilch (depending on local minimum wage laws and what tactics are available to "employers" to work around the minimum wage). Only time you don't tip is if service was REALLY bad

[AtW]

What Jubber said, for smeg's sake. £1.50??? And AtW, you're spouting rubbish. Shut it.

Ok, look, how about this - following your logic "have a drink on me means drink" then landlord opens bottle of £10k wine, takes small glass and then comes to you to charge you the rest, how you'd like that?

The whole point of right and proper convention of "have a drink too" is to have limited liability meaning of "take a fixed tip - £1 from remaining money that you need to return to me".

It seems to me people up norf are more russional here

[AtW]

I know, or think I know, you live off the Hagley Road somewhere. Isn't that near Bournville, where pubs are banned? George Cadbury would be turning in his grave.

Near Bournville yes - Harborne, very nice place, plenty of pubs on high street...

[Lockhouse]

yeah, it was the attitude and the aggression that suprised me. They aint backwards at being forwards, as my dear departed nan(pbuh) nearly said

All part of the charm dear boy, all part of the charm.

[EternalOptimist]

That's usual in the US. Restaurant tips are 15-20% as the staff get taxed on them whether they get tipped or not. Always leave at least loose change when buying a drink in a bar. Factor it in to the cost is the best way. That's just the way it works over there.

yeah, it was the attitude and the aggression that suprised me. They aint backwards at being forwards, as my dear departed nan(pbuh) nearly said

[Lockhouse]

'Well you havn't tipped me once, we dont get paid and we rely on tips to make our living. 10% is typical'

That's usual in the US. Restaurant tips are 15-20% as the staff get taxed on them whether they get tipped or not. Always leave at least loose change when buying a drink in a bar. Factor it in to the cost is the best way. That's just the way it works over there.

[darmstadt]

Usually in the USA I just leave a $ on the bar every time I order a drink. Seems to work fine. Last time I was in Chattanooga the guy behind the bar collected coins so I just gave him a Euro for each beer, worked even better.

[d000hg]

AtW you are wrong. If you want to tip, buy your drinks, get the change and visibly put some of it on the counter as a tip. Just like in a restaurant. I would only invite the bar-man to "have one yourself" in a pub I know well, that's more a gesture of friendship than tipping for good service.

[BrilloPad]

it's very different in America

Me and a mate were in a night club in Boston years ago, and decided it was time to stupidly drunk.

We had just ordered jack daniels and coke, and said to the barman "actually can you make them double's please".

the guy gave us a look, and when he told us how much it was, I gave the money, and he leaned over and said angrily "if you aren't going to tip, don't ask for doubles".

he was expecting me to have slipped him I dunno a couple of dollars as I was asking for the double's.

as he gave me my change, I said to him "we were expecting to PAY extra for doubles" but he walked away before I could even give him a normal (american) tip. i just threw a few dollars down and walked away - c u n t!

I know a guy, who loves to talk about all the travelling he's done. Loves to talk about the time he spent in America.

He's such a twat he tip's in the UK as if he is in America, 15-20% no matter what restaurant or bar service is like.

The barman was extreme : but of course in the states there are almost no wages and people live off tips.

[Money Money Money]

Me and a friend once went for a tipple in a little pub called the "rovers returns" just behind the lowry in Manchester.

We sat at the bar and started to realise that every time a local bought a drink they were saying "and one for you"...

**** me we thought, these lot must be minted! they are buying one drink for themselves and another for the staff...every time!!! - Not like this down south we thought!!!

Then we started to feel a little tight, so asked the bar lady if they were all buying her drinks?

She said no, i take 10p everytime they say that!!!