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I'd offer my opinion but I am not an expert on this particular subject...
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostI've got one, any truth to the story that Freemasonary was an evolution of the Templars after they were persecuted?
None that has been proven.
There is much speculation but no concrete evidence. There are many "Templar" orders that claim direct descent but no masonic degree claims a direct link.
Btw, it's "Freemasonry".
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Originally posted by Francko View PostIf the tones of Minestrone are perhaps a bit harsh, I do not also understand why he has the obligation to be erudite about masonry. I think it is in everybody's right to be ignorant about something in life. Since no-one is capable of explaining what masonry is the individual should be free not to like it and consider it unusual, bizarre or strange. I have a couple of questions, for example, if it is something so good, why only a small number of people are allowed to know that? And even if only a small number of people can know that, why is it kept secret to the rest? And, no I don't want to try, I don't want to read books, etc.
Those are just two simple questions I would like to ask to join any association that is secret and the membership is limited. Or anybody else here likes to join organizations without seeing the contract?
Ask me a question and I'll answer it to the best of my ability.
If you choose to disbelieve the answer then that is your perogative.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostLet me explain.
One definition of cult is "sect". Take the first definition of sect. Applies most definitely to Freemasonry.
By the way, we don't shag goats. I most definitely don't anyway.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostAre you a Mason?
If you're so interested in 'secret' orders that don't talk about their organisation, carry out 'funny' rituals, have different levels of rank, etc, etc, etc try doing some research on Opus Dei. And no I'm not a member of them either.
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If the tones of Minestrone are perhaps a bit harsh, I do not also understand why he has the obligation to be erudite about masonry. I think it is in everybody's right to be ignorant about something in life. Since no-one is capable of explaining what masonry is the individual should be free not to like it and consider it unusual, bizarre or strange. I have a couple of questions, for example, if it is something so good, why only a small number of people are allowed to know that? And even if only a small number of people can know that, why is it kept secret to the rest? And, no I don't want to try, I don't want to read books, etc.
Those are just two simple questions I would like to ask to join any association that is secret and the membership is limited. Or anybody else here likes to join organizations without seeing the contract?
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Originally posted by Sockpuppet View PostI know two freemasons. Mr Churchill and my mate Mark.
Both are really tall.
I heard that used for years until I cracked and asked what it meant.
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I know two freemasons. Mr Churchill and my mate Mark.
Both are really tall.
I'm onto you.
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Originally posted by Churchill View Post...
As Freemasonry is not a religion how can it be a cult?
Originally posted by The Dictionarycult n. 1 religious system, sect, etc., esp. ritualistic. 2 a devotion to a person or thing (cult of aestheticism). b fashion. c (attrib.) fashionable (cult film). [Latin: related to *cultivate]
sect n. 1 group sharing (usu. unorthodox) religious, political, or philosophical doctrines. 2 (esp. exclusive) religious denomination. [Latin sequor follow]
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostCan anyone else picture Minestrone as the Spanish Inquistor in Monty Python?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
Scary thing is, he's serious.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostFreaks!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
Scary thing is, he's serious.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostYes, depending on whether it is your initiation, passing or raising.
It's part of the tradition. It saves someone ruining your shirt with the dagger too!
That is the most disturbing thing, you think what you are doing is normal.
Freaks!!!!!!!
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