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Previously on "Is Freemasonry a cult?"

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  • PM-Junkie
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post


    I just had to quote that post to save to for all time.
    If that was his position all the time his post count would would about 6.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I'd offer my opinion but I am not an expert on this particular subject...


    I just had to quote that post to save to for all time.

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  • AtW
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    I'd offer my opinion but I am not an expert on this particular subject...

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    I've got one, any truth to the story that Freemasonary was an evolution of the Templars after they were persecuted?
    Any truth?

    None that has been proven.

    There is much speculation but no concrete evidence. There are many "Templar" orders that claim direct descent but no masonic degree claims a direct link.

    Btw, it's "Freemasonry".

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post

    Ask me a question and I'll answer it to the best of my ability.
    I've got one, any truth to the story that Freemasonary was an evolution of the Templars after they were persecuted?

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by Francko View Post
    If the tones of Minestrone are perhaps a bit harsh, I do not also understand why he has the obligation to be erudite about masonry. I think it is in everybody's right to be ignorant about something in life. Since no-one is capable of explaining what masonry is the individual should be free not to like it and consider it unusual, bizarre or strange. I have a couple of questions, for example, if it is something so good, why only a small number of people are allowed to know that? And even if only a small number of people can know that, why is it kept secret to the rest? And, no I don't want to try, I don't want to read books, etc.

    Those are just two simple questions I would like to ask to join any association that is secret and the membership is limited. Or anybody else here likes to join organizations without seeing the contract?
    If you have questions about Freemasonry then ask a Freemason. The only things that we have secret are our modes of recognition.

    Ask me a question and I'll answer it to the best of my ability.

    If you choose to disbelieve the answer then that is your perogative.

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Let me explain.



    One definition of cult is "sect". Take the first definition of sect. Applies most definitely to Freemasonry.
    No it doesn't. Freemasonry is not based on a single religion, it's not based on any religion, only a belief in "something that is a singular omnicient presence", be it budha, allah, god, whatever singular deity you wish swear an oath on.

    By the way, we don't shag goats. I most definitely don't anyway.

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Are you a Mason?
    Nope, I reckon I'd fail the first test which is to have a belief in 'something' that something being a god. I don't know which one, I'm not a Mason and for that reason I may be wrong as well.

    If you're so interested in 'secret' orders that don't talk about their organisation, carry out 'funny' rituals, have different levels of rank, etc, etc, etc try doing some research on Opus Dei. And no I'm not a member of them either.

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  • Francko
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    If the tones of Minestrone are perhaps a bit harsh, I do not also understand why he has the obligation to be erudite about masonry. I think it is in everybody's right to be ignorant about something in life. Since no-one is capable of explaining what masonry is the individual should be free not to like it and consider it unusual, bizarre or strange. I have a couple of questions, for example, if it is something so good, why only a small number of people are allowed to know that? And even if only a small number of people can know that, why is it kept secret to the rest? And, no I don't want to try, I don't want to read books, etc.

    Those are just two simple questions I would like to ask to join any association that is secret and the membership is limited. Or anybody else here likes to join organizations without seeing the contract?

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  • BrowneIssue
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    Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
    I know two freemasons. Mr Churchill and my mate Mark.

    Both are really tall.


    I heard that used for years until I cracked and asked what it meant.

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  • Sockpuppet
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    I know two freemasons. Mr Churchill and my mate Mark.

    Both are really tall.





    I'm onto you.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    ...
    As Freemasonry is not a religion how can it be a cult?
    Let me explain.

    Originally posted by The Dictionary
    cult n. 1 religious system, sect, etc., esp. ritualistic. 2 a devotion to a person or thing (cult of aestheticism). b fashion. c (attrib.) fashionable (cult film). [Latin: related to *cultivate]

    sect n. 1 group sharing (usu. unorthodox) religious, political, or philosophical doctrines. 2 (esp. exclusive) religious denomination. [Latin sequor follow]
    One definition of cult is "sect". Take the first definition of sect. Applies most definitely to Freemasonry.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    Can anyone else picture Minestrone as the Spanish Inquistor in Monty Python?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY

    Scary thing is, he's serious.
    Are you a Mason?

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Freaks!!!!!!!
    Can anyone else picture Minestrone as the Spanish Inquistor in Monty Python?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY

    Scary thing is, he's serious.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Yes, depending on whether it is your initiation, passing or raising.

    It's part of the tradition. It saves someone ruining your shirt with the dagger too!
    Dear God, you have a self imposed warped logic to when and which each man tit is shown?! Then you try to justify that by saying "depending on whether it is your initiation"

    That is the most disturbing thing, you think what you are doing is normal.

    Freaks!!!!!!!

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