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Previously on "Scientists debunk the myth that you lose most heat through your head"

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
    I lived in a country where exposed skin could freeze in under a minute.
    Lancashire?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    Those parts are all very small though.
    Speak for yourself......

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  • TimberWolf
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    As an engineer I feel I must boringly point out that temperature of any bit is a function both of loss to the air and heat supply to it from the body so thin protrudy bits without major blood flow are the problem, fingers, toes, ears noses and male naughty bits for those of us who wander around in the snow not wearing any pants.
    Those parts are all very small though.

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  • lilelvis2000
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    I feel much warmer with a hat on...Then again I lived in a country where exposed skin could freeze in under a minute.

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    As an engineer I feel I must boringly point out that temperature of any bit is a function both of loss to the air and heat supply to it from the body so thin protrudy bits without major blood flow are the problem, fingers, toes, ears noses and male naughty bits for those of us who wander around in the snow not wearing any pants.
    I can tell you've been following the building of my ice bike on me blog. :-)

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  • xoggoth
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    As an engineer I feel I must boringly point out that temperature of any bit is a function both of loss to the air and heat supply to it from the body so thin protrudy bits without major blood flow are the problem, fingers, toes, ears noses and male naughty bits for those of us who wander around in the snow not wearing any pants.

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  • Advocate
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    Ah it's cus heat rises innit!

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    How much are these PHd types paid? Whatever, It's too much. All things equal, heat loss is largely based on surface area. If everything is covered except the head then proportionately head based heat loss is greater, and a hat reduces this.
    But doesn't the brain generate heat?

    Well only certain brains obviously.....

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  • Turion
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    How much are these PHd types paid? Whatever, It's too much. All things equal, heat loss is largely based on surface area. If everything is covered except the head then proportionately head based heat loss is greater, and a hat reduces this.

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by dang65 View Post
    This is stating the bleedin' obvious though isn't it? It doesn't debunk the advice to wear a warm hat in cold weather, or the fact that heat is lost through your head when the rest of you is covered and your head isn't. If you covered everything else except your backside then heat would be lost through your backside and the advice would be to put some trousers on. I don't see how it's a "myth". Unless people really do believe that a naked man would lose 45% of his heat through his head?
    If you’re clothed from head to toe in winter gear, but don’t have a hat, then obviously most of the heat loss will be from your head. The advice to wear a hat still stands, seeing as it’s best to cover as much of your body as possible in the cold. I should know as I’m a balding northerner, and oop north we know about the cold.

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  • d000hg
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    Probably depends how much hair you have too.

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  • dang65
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    The myth is thought to have arisen through a flawed interpretation of a vaguely scientific experiment by the US military in the 1950s. In those studies, volunteers were dressed in Arctic survival suits and exposed to bitterly cold conditions. Because it was the only part of their bodies left uncovered, most of their heat was lost through their heads.
    This is stating the bleedin' obvious though isn't it? It doesn't debunk the advice to wear a warm hat in cold weather, or the fact that heat is lost through your head when the rest of you is covered and your head isn't. If you covered everything else except your backside then heat would be lost through your backside and the advice would be to put some trousers on. I don't see how it's a "myth". Unless people really do believe that a naked man would lose 45% of his heat through his head?

    From cycling in very cold weather it is obvious that covering your extremities - warm hat, gloves, thick socks - is far more effective than wearing a ski jacket, which just overheats after a few minutes riding.

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  • threaded
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    As someone who has quite a bit of training in survival I would go with that old manual, it is way more correct than these scientists.

    When you're in a survival situation keeping your own moral up is by far the most important thing to do. Hence if you feel a lot colder without a hat, than a similar covering on any other part of the body, then wearing a hat is a very good thing to do.

    Doesn't matter if you're not actually losing so much heat through your head, it is keeping your moral up.

    Now, these manuals were written for people with a low level of educational attainment, so it was written for it's audience. That is all.

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  • Scientists debunk the myth that you lose most heat through your head

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...humanbehaviour

    When it comes to wrapping up on a cold winter's day, a cosy hat is obligatory. After all, most of our body heat is lost through our heads – or so we are led to believe.

    Closer inspection of heat loss in the hatless, however, reveals the claim to be nonsense, say scientists who have dispelled this and five other modern myths.

    They traced the origins of the hat-wearing advice back to a US army survival manual from 1970 which strongly recommended covering the head when it is cold, since "40 to 45 percent of body heat" is lost from the head.

    Rachel Vreeman and Aaron Carroll, at the centre for health policy at Indiana University in Indianapolis, rubbish the claim in the British Medical Journal this week. If this were true, they say, humans would be just as cold if they went without a hat as if they went without trousers. "Patently, this is just not the case," they write.

    The myth is thought to have arisen through a flawed interpretation of a vaguely scientific experiment by the US military in the 1950s. In those studies, volunteers were dressed in Arctic survival suits and exposed to bitterly cold conditions. Because it was the only part of their bodies left uncovered, most of their heat was lost through their heads.

    The face, head and chest are more sensitive to changes in temperature than the rest of the body, making it feel as if covering them up does more to prevent heat loss. In fact, covering one part of the body has as much effect as covering any other. If the experiment had been performed with people wearing only swimming trunks, they would have lost no more than 10% of their body heat through their heads, the scientists add.

    The researchers then decided to look at several other widely held beliefs to see if there was any published scientific evidence to support them. In many cases, they found several studies that completely undermined them. "Examining common medical myths reminds us to be aware of when evidence supports our advice, and when we operate based on unexamined beliefs," they write.

    Another myth exposed by the study was that sugar makes children hyperactive. At least a dozen high-quality studies have investigated the possibility of a link between children's behaviour and sugar intake, but none has found any difference between children who consumed a lot and those who did not. The belief appears mostly to be a figment of parents' imaginations. "When parents think their children have been given a drink containing sugar, even if it is really sugar-free, they rate their children's behaviour as more hyperactive," the researchers write.

    The warning that snacking at night makes you fat is on similarly thin ice, Vreeman and Carroll discovered. At first glance, some research suggests there may be a link, with one study showing that obese women tended to eat later in the day than slimmer women. But according to the BMJ article, "The obese women were not just night eaters, they were also eating more meals, and taking in more calories makes you gain weight regardless of when calories are consumed."

    The researchers also have some unwelcome news for those hoping to survive the festive excesses by turning to hangover cures. After an extensive review of evidence for the curative benefits of bananas, aspirin, vegemite, fructose, glucose, artichoke, prickly pear and the drugs tropisetron and tolfenamic acid, they conclude that none has been proven to cure hangovers. "No scientific evidence ... supports any cure or effective prevention for alcohol hangovers," they state. "The most effective way to avoid a hangover is to consume alcohol only in moderation or not at all."

    The team went on to show that contrary to popular belief, the Christmas plant poinsettia with it blood-red leaves is not toxic, and that suicides do not rise over the holiday period

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