Reply to: Germans; ignorant, clever or plain rich?

[chef]

Interestingly the big auto manufactures are on stop at the moment, for about 6 weeks.

Current client (not auto but some of its big customers are) is still predicting growth over the next few years though.

agreed, permie colleagues here have been notified that they must take a 4 week holiday for xmas, unless they have an important meeting, most of the management tier have organised onsite meetings nicely spread out over the xmas period

[sasguru]

Yes about time it has taken about 20 years before their economy has contributed anything other than looking after its elite.

DO you really believe this?

[Bob Dalek]

For you Tommy, ze economic war is over. Ve have won the peace.

For another "Thousand years"?!

[Pondlife]

Interestingly the big auto manufactures are on stop at the moment, for about 6 weeks.

Current client (not auto but some of its big customers are) is still predicting growth over the next few years though.

[DodgyAgent]

Well the Germans have been reforming to the extent that their builders are now going to work in Eastern Europe because, they're cheaper than the Eastern Europeans and do a better job.

I think the German motor is sparking back into life.

Yes about time it has taken about 20 years before their economy has contributed anything other than looking after its elite.

[oracleslave]

As I have said before I do think parts of their export industry (especially mid to high market cars) will suffer as people postpone buying big-ticket items. But this will be temporary. On the other hand the hit to the financial industry here will last much longer and be more harmful to our economy.

Not disagreeing because I honestly don't know but why do you think this will be temporary. Are their exports not reliant on other economies recovering first in order to enable theirs to recover?

[sasguru]

F--k off , Fritz, and take your vitamin C-deficient food, metallic language, self-destructive sense of national pride, and inability to build the Bomb in time with you. You may leave behind the porn vids, though. Phew! Vat ein skorcher!

For you Tommy, ze economic war is over. Ve have won the peace.

[BlasterBates]

Well the Germans have been reforming to the extent that their builders are now going to work in Eastern Europe because, they're cheaper than the Eastern Europeans and do a better job.

I think the German motor is sparking back into life.

[Bob Dalek]

Yes as I have a good mate in Berlin, I've visited Germany most years since the wall came down. They seem to have created a much more sensible society than we have. Of course quite a few people (e.g. DA) believe the media myth of a "sclerotic" Germany. One has only to live there for a while to realise that this is complete nonsense based on a justified British inferiority complex.

F--k off , Fritz, and take your vitamin C-deficient food, metallic language, self-destructive sense of national pride, and inability to build the Bomb in time with you. You may leave behind the porn vids, though. Phew! Vat ein skorcher!

[sasguru]

They are by no means immune to the worlds current economic problems although they are affected in a slightly different manner.

As I have said before I do think parts of their export industry (especially mid to high market cars) will suffer as people postpone buying big-ticket items. But this will be temporary. On the other hand the hit to the financial industry here will last much longer and be more harmful to our economy.

[Mich the Tester]

Yes as I have a good mate in Berlin, I've visited Germany most years since the wall came down. They seem to have created a much more sensible society than we have. Of course quite a few people (e.g. DA) believe the media myth of a "sclerotic" Germany. One has only to live there for a while to realise that this is complete nonsense based on a justified British inferiority complex.

Have a look at these houses in the Moezel region. Very nice area, best weather in Germany and 30 minutes commute from Luxemburg or Trier;

http://www.nestoria.de/immobilien/kaufen/nennig

Not exactly 'sclerotic'. And if anyone thinks these places are cheap; this is one of the most desirable places to live in Europe.

[sasguru]

I was in Germany a couple of weeks ago on holiday; it’s not exactly a Dantean image of starvation and pestilence. Decent houses in nice places were available at prices that you could pay off in 10 years with a two income household ( and I don’t mean grotty houses in East German neo-nazi strongholds), restaurants and hotels were reasonably priced, petrol almost affordable, and the papers were full of job adverts. All in all they seem to be doing alright.

Yes as I have a good mate in Berlin, I've visited Germany most years since the wall came down. They seem to have created a much more sensible society than we have. Of course quite a few people (e.g. DA) believe the media myth of a "sclerotic" Germany. One has only to live there for a while to realise that this is complete nonsense based on a justified British inferiority complex.

[oracleslave]

They are by no means immune to the worlds current economic problems although they are affected in a slightly different manner.

[Mich the Tester]

Germans generally don't have massive debts, if they own their houses they don't have huge mortgages and are better cushioned by the state.
Plus they know their economy is not based on hot air.
So they should be feeling better than we feel.

I was in Germany a couple of weeks ago on holiday; it’s not exactly a Dantean image of starvation and pestilence. Decent houses in nice places were available at prices that you could pay off in 10 years with a two income household ( and I don’t mean grotty houses in East German neo-nazi strongholds), restaurants and hotels were reasonably priced, petrol almost affordable, and the papers were full of job adverts. All in all they seem to be doing alright.

[sasguru]

Germans generally don't have massive debts, if they own their houses they don't have huge mortgages and are better cushioned by the state.
Plus they know their economy is not based on hot air.
So they should be feeling better than we feel.