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Previously on "[poll] Working direct with clients"

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  • DS23
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    do both and don't have any problems with either.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Another crap poll.

    None of the above.

    I prefer to work direct and find work that way easier than dealing with agents.
    Yep. I prefer to work direct, but some clients won't let me.

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  • Bagpuss
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    I prefer to work direct but it's getting harder as companies try to avoid employment rights claims.
    Last contract I sourced direct from my contacts but still had to hand it to any agency

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  • Pickle2
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    Originally posted by chef View Post
    how do agents get you better rates than if you went direct?
    They have access to the better paying roles?

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  • chef
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    how do agents get you better rates than if you went direct?

    typical scenario:
    the EB has a budget (say £1000 a day max) for a contractor

    scenario 1: going via agency, agent fairly accurately guesses EB's budget and puts you in for £900 (agent takes 15% cut), agent offers you £765 a day

    scenario 2: agent knows there is competition in the market and so bids lower (£850 a day) to guarantee he gets the job then takes 15% and rounds it up a bit, offers you £725, you try for more but agent wont budge

    scenario 3: you find the EB yourself, you know the market and you know what rate is average and so you take a good rate and add a bit, you bid £800

    -from your point of view you've got the best rate by going direct
    -from the EB point of view they've got the cheapest bid by you going direct, win win all round (except the agent of course)

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  • Pickle2
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    Originally posted by Bob Dalek View Post
    I am unemployed and live on Tesco Value burgers.
    Not for long.

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  • Bob Dalek
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Another crap poll.

    None of the above.

    I prefer to work direct and find work that way easier than dealing with agents.

    I am unemployed and live on Tesco Value burgers.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Another crap poll.

    None of the above.

    I prefer to work direct and find work that way easier than dealing with agents.
    We need a way to have a pre-poll, where people can suggest options, before the original poster runs the poll.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Another crap poll.

    None of the above.

    I prefer to work direct and find work that way easier than dealing with agents.

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  • d000hg
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    And also, how DO you find companies directly? When I worked in the games industry it was easy - there are sites which list every game development studio in the country, but all kinds of non-software companies need software developed.

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  • chicane
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    I started out working directly with SME clients. After a year, I realised that working for large corporates through agencies was twice the money and half the hassle.

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  • d000hg
    started a poll [poll] Working direct with clients

    [poll] Working direct with clients

    17
    I refuse to work through an agent
    0.00%
    0
    I'd rather work directly but it's too hard to find work
    52.94%
    9
    I'm too lazy to sort out paperwork and find contracts
    17.65%
    3
    I prefer to go through agents, they get me better rates
    5.88%
    1
    AndyW is my agent
    23.53%
    4
    I've signed up with agencies but I'm not that enthusiastic, I've enjoyed finding and working with clients directly for the last year.

    For all the bitching about agents, do you guys prefer to work through an agency or is it a necessary evil?

    Give me 20s for the poll...

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