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Previously on "IT workers turn down permanent jobs"

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by Jubber View Post
    A year on the bench = Go get a new career.
    Get out of Pascal

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  • Jubber
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    A year on the bench = Go get a new career.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by Pondlife View Post


    Edited for truth
    Originally posted by Xenophon View Post


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  • Xenophon
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    Originally posted by Pondlife View Post


    Edited for truth

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  • Pondlife
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    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    I think after a year on the bench I would feel even less motivated. I have too many interests that involve pot noodles and tissues.


    Edited for truth

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  • KentPhilip
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    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post

    If nothing else we represent a full tax deductible expense to the clients so they can budget accurately within their project costs.
    So their accountants love us!

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  • TykeMerc
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    As mentioned at least twice on this thread the real cost of hiring a permie is a lot higher than just the salary plus the financial commitment is long term. Most people who look at contractors just see the rates, but they don't appreciate the risks, costs and negatives of being a contractor and the positives to clients of paying specialists for project duration work.

    If nothing else we represent a full tax deductible expense to the clients so they can budget accurately within their project costs.

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  • gingerjedi
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    My client looks at me as a poor temp who can't get a proper job, they think I'll jump at the chance of becoming an employee... oh how little they know.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    There's also the long term liability aspect to hiring permies.

    I was talking to my old boss (and plan B co-conspirator) the other day and he said "I don't want employees ever again", because of all the hassles which get worse all the time.

    Good news for contractors I suppose, but we don't want too many people going contract. I say employers should ditch the permies, but only hire contractors with at least 2 years 11 months contracting experience.


    10+ yrs contracting min.

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  • VectraMan
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    There's also the long term liability aspect to hiring permies.

    I was talking to my old boss (and plan B co-conspirator) the other day and he said "I don't want employees ever again", because of all the hassles which get worse all the time.

    Good news for contractors I suppose, but we don't want too many people going contract. I say employers should ditch the permies, but only hire contractors with at least 2 years 11 months contracting experience.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
    Try spending a year or so on the bench. Then you will feel motivated.
    I think after a year on the bench I would feel even less motivated. I have too many interests that don't involve work.

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  • Xenophon
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    Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
    Try spending a year or so on the bench. Then you will feel motivated.
    A year? Good work fella!

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  • Cyberman
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    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    Oooerr so that's where I am going wrong!

    Try spending a year or so on the bench. Then you will feel motivated.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    highly motivated
    Oooerr so that's where I am going wrong!

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  • Cyberman
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    So many new pieces of legislation "protecting" permies, that employers are sick of the fact that the ladies get years off on maternity, and that bloke there is on long term "sick" for stress and that one there demands flexible hours to tend to their four kids and comes and goes as they please and everyones in a Union, and you can't do this and we demand that.

    Employers, sack your useless permies and stock up on highly skilled, highly motivated professional IT contractors.



    Now, time for another tea break.



    Wow!!! There is something positive that this government has achieved after all !!

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