Reply to: Children Damaged by Materialism

[HRH]

It's the mentality of poor people all over the world.

It must be something akin to wild animals who start breeding if they are threatened by famine.

Or could it be that ulike animals, they have mugs like me and thee to pay for thier litters of kids....

[SueEllen]

Spot on, im sick of seeing familys on trisha without a pot to piss in but are having kids like its going out of fashion.

It's the mentality of poor people all over the world.

It must be something akin to wild animals who start breeding if they are threatened by famine.

[HRH]

Snaw I actually think people who can't afford to put a roof over their own heads should not be bringing children into the world. Why should the taxpayer pay for them?

Spot on, im sick of seeing familys on trisha without a pot to piss in but are having kids like its going out of fashion.

[snaw]

Power - that's the endgame, that's it, that's all most politicians care about. I know there are some with a good heart, I've met quite a few, but the rest are not there to be your friends, and not there for the good of the common man.

The Treasury can be a very effective weapon. Socialist governments have proven themselves to be the first to use it as one - perhaps for retribution? Who knows...

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that call, just they do it to increase their wealth statement before. As for seeking more power, I don't think that's exclusive to socialist politicians. From what I can see most politicians try to gather more power, just the means that differ.

[realityhack]

I'm not quite sure that's exactly right. Disagree as we might with the actual tax increase bit, I think it's stretching things to say socialist governments do it to increase their wealth (If by wealth you mean the individuals in power).

Power - that's the endgame, that's it, that's all most politicians care about. I know there are some with a good heart, I've met quite a few, but the rest are not there to be your friends, and not there for the good of the common man.

The Treasury can be a very effective weapon. Socialist governments have proven themselves to be the first to use it as one - perhaps for retribution? Who knows...

[oracleslave]

I JUST DON'T GET IT!

I think you just hit the proverbial nail on the head

[snaw]

OMG just how clueless can one get! Taxes are there to protect those in power and increase their wealth. That is why whenever you get a socialist government the tax burden always increases.

I'm not quite sure that's exactly right. Disagree as we might with the actual tax increase bit, I think it's stretching things to say socialist governments do it to increase their wealth (If by wealth you mean the individuals in power).

[threaded]

Taxes are there to protect the vulnerable. Towards the end of our time here, we will all become vulnerable - especially those with no children.

OMG just how clueless can one get! Taxes are there to protect those in power and increase their wealth. That is why whenever you get a socialist government the tax burden always increases.

[roadster198]

Unfortunately you are coming from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't have kids and are therefore unable to see how ridiculous the argument of comparing kids and cars is. That might change with age and you could end up marvelling at what a self-serving prat you used to be prior to having a family. I know that's what happened to me.

It's all about me my friend, EVERYONE! elses comes second unless I'm going to get something out of it financially then your my new best friend. I don't mind owning up to it I'm shallow/selfish love money and love anyhting with a engine in it (as long as it has the right badge on the bonnet of course ) and I can NEVER EVER!!! see the day when I sit down and say I know lets have children that sounds like a good idea.

having observed parents with their kids whilst out and about I fail to see the enjoyment any of them get when the kid starts greetin in shops throwing tantrums etc. Also anytime I hear people I know that have children there always moaning about them. Kids..... I JUST DON'T GET IT!

I'm actually a very nice person once you get to know me Honest

your probably right I might eventually see the error of my ways but at 33 it's not going to be anytime soon.

[roadster198]

Even better, you could just about buy a mint '73 RS 2.7

See a man who understands what I'm talking about

[Lucy]

Remember these Jeremy-Kyle-generation children will be the ones changing your incontinence pads and emptying your commode in future years when your frailty means you can't do it alone. The educated ones will be scheming with your distant relatives how to carve up your estate when you've gone. A comforting thought for you - at least you'll get some value for all those taxes you paid out.

Taxes are there to protect the vulnerable. Towards the end of our time here, we will all become vulnerable - especially those with no children.

Doubt that children raised without a clue will be doing these jobs, it will be immigrants more like. However, I will put a bullet through my brain rather than suffer that indignity.

Tax does not protect the vulnerable. And those with any sense will have saved for their retirement.

I feel saddened by your world view, good vs evil. Perhaps try reading 'Atlas Shrugged' rather than comics.

[SizeZero]

Clock or no clock, the fact remains that if people cannot afford to look after children ie either they are time or money poor they shouldn't have them.

Remember these Jeremy-Kyle-generation children will be the ones changing your incontinence pads and emptying your commode in future years when your frailty means you can't do it alone. The educated ones will be scheming with your distant relatives how to carve up your estate when you've gone. A comforting thought for you - at least you'll get some value for all those taxes you paid out.

Taxes are there to protect the vulnerable. Towards the end of our time here, we will all become vulnerable - especially those with no children.

[snaw]

I haven't claimed to be.

I think it is fair to assume though, that when someone tells me what I am not they must be have those qualities themselves.

This obviously strikes a chord with you snore, how about getting off the net and spending some time with your kids then.

Have you been on the bevvie? You're not making sense. Claimed to be what? What qualities they meant to have?

BTW My kid is in bed, and I spend more time with her than almost every dad I know. But thanks for the comment, next time I need parenting tips I'll be sure to check in, clearly you're a natural.

[Lucy]

I haven't claimed to be.

I think it is fair to assume though, that when someone tells me what I am not they must be have those qualities themselves.

This obviously strikes a chord with you snore, how about getting off the net and spending some time with your kids then.

[snaw]

Thanks for not judging me Sandy.

I am glad you are so well rounded and accepting.

And no, I don't excuse you for saying you know anything about how suited I am for anything.

You don't know me, don't even go there.

Hmm. Judging people. Well rounded and accepting. Not exactly traits which you've displayed on this thread, eh fella?