Reply to: Eurofighter V's Russian nuclear bombers

[wendigo100]

BTW Wendy as a follow God, what punishments should we inflict on the mere mortals?

I've yet to get used to my new responsibilities.

Well, I tend to set their feet on fire, then drop them from a height of several hundred metres. That smarts a bit.

[richard-af]

What is The Final Phase

By J.R. Nyquist

Since the tragedy of 9/11 we know that America faces a grave threat. We know about bin Laden and al Qaeda. We know about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. What is not understood is that we face a much bigger enemy. A more dangerous enemy, unsuspected by most of our leaders and the experts who advise them.

What a load of old tramp dung.

[sasguru]

Too long, Nicky G. I've got work to do. Can you precis that in 100 words?

I can:

do 1 to 100
print "dribble"
end

BTW Wendy as a follow God, what punishments should we inflict on the mere mortals?

[daviejones]

That's because mongols don't have a decent hairdye

And that's because there is no Boots the Chemist in Mongolia...DUH! Simple really!!!

[Andy2]

Many Russians, certainly in the western half, are descended from Vikings. Even the name "Russia" comes from a Viking word meaning "read headed" (as in "russet"), and I've yet to see a Mongol with red hair.

That's because mongols don't have a decent hairdye

[wendigo100]

Many Russians, certainly in the western half, are descended from Vikings. Even the name "Russia" comes from a Viking word meaning "read headed" (as in "russet"), and I've yet to see a Mongol with red hair.

Paul Scholes?

[wendigo100]

Too long, Nicky G. I've got work to do. Can you precis that in 100 words?

[OwlHoot]

By understanding that Russians are Mongols from Byzantium, the next president will not find Russia a Churchillian mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

Dr. Jack Wheeler

Many Russians, certainly in the western half, are descended from Vikings. Even the name "Russia" comes from a Viking word meaning "read headed" (as in "russet"), and I've yet to see a Mongol with red hair.

[scooterscot]

What is The Final Phase

By J.R. Nyquist

Since the tragedy of 9/11 we know that America faces a grave threat. ”

Economic ruin?

[NickFitz]

Per chance do you own all copies of the x-files?

[scooterscot]

Per chance do you own all copies of the x-files?

[Nicky G]

What are they up to?

http://www.thefinalphase.com/FirstWelcomePage.htm
http://www.anti-communistanalyst.com/

Mongols be up to no good.

[Nicky G]

Are they rattling our cage or whot? I'm getting John Smeaton on to them...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...22/nraf122.xml

What is The Final Phase

By J.R. Nyquist

Since the tragedy of 9/11 we know that America faces a grave threat. We know about bin Laden and al Qaeda. We know about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. What is not understood is that we face a much bigger enemy. A more dangerous enemy, unsuspected by most of our leaders and the experts who advise them.

Who is this enemy?

In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies for Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable chapter, titled "The Final Phase," Golitsyn accurately described the future of the Soviet bloc. Communism would give up its monopoly of power in Russia, he explained, as apparent freedom and democracy would be introduced. The communist Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. The Berlin Wall might be taken down and Germany united as "the key to progress toward a neutral, socialist Europe."

Controlled democratization and liberalization would be facilitated by communist agents within the dissident movements of Eastern Europe. As Golitsyn wrote, "the liberalization would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above. It would be carried out by the party through its cells and individual members in government, the Supreme Soviet, the courts, and the electoral machinery and by the KGB through its agents among the intellectuals and scientists." (p. 339-340.)

Golitsyn's book has been dismissed as nonsense by CIA experts, pundits and journalists. "Yet of Golitsyn's falsifiable predictions, 139 out of 148 were fulfilled by the end of 1993 -- an accuracy rate of nearly 94 percent," according to Mark Riebling's history of the FBI and CIA titled Wedge.

The correctness of Golitsyn's predictions have also been shown by researchers and journalists reporting on events in Eastern Europe. These include the stunning revelations of Andrei Codrescu about the 1989 Romanian Revolution, in his book The Hole in the Flag, as well as revelations by Polish author Darius Rohnka in his book Fatalna Fikcja ("The Fatal Fiction") and the works of Czech activist Petr Cibulka.

We also have the personal analysis of two GRU defectors. The famous spy and author, Viktor Rezun (a.k.a. Viktor Suvorov), told Christopher Story of Soviet Analyst that the collapse of the Soviet Union was undoubtedly a deception. When asked how Western intelligence could fail to see this deception, Rezun answered, "Because they are stupid." At the same time, GRU defector Stanislav Lunev has also suggested that the collapse of the Soviet Union must have been part of a strategic plan, although he says the plan went awry and led to the unintended derailment of Marxism-Leninism in the former bloc countries. However, he admits, this is no obstacle to Kremlin strategy, since Moscow's communist era objectives remain unchanged with KGB officer Vladimir Putin at the helm.

Evidence of a long range Soviet strategy of controlled democratization and fake collapse for the purpose of disarming the West also appears in the writings of the high level Czech defector Jan Sejna. In his 1982 book, We Will Bury You, Sejna wrote of a plan to “convince the Capitalist countries that they had no need of military alliances.” He added that, “To this end we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defence arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon.”

The evidence for strategic deception is rich and verifiable. It is not material invented by kooks, but solidly based in reality. Americans do not realize the extent to which the Chechen wars were Kremlin-inspired provocations, openly alluded to by Russia’s ranking Chechen official, Mufti Kadyrov. They do not realize the suspicious backgrounds of leading Chechen Muslims, or the fact that al Qaeda’s Number Two man spent several months in Russia only to be released under mysterious circumstances. Could it be a coincidence that terrorism expert Yossef Bodansky alleges that bin Laden’s acquired nuclear weapons via Chechnya, from Russian sources?

The pieces of the puzzle are in front of our eyes. But Americans will not believe their eyes. No matter how carefully the evidence is laid out, the public and American officials reject the idea of an ongoing Soviet deception strategy to bring America to its knees.

A few months before the attack on the World Trade Center, Fidel Castro visited Iran. He said that working together, they could bring down the United States. It is significant that Russia and China are now allied, and engage in regular joint military exercises. It is significant that communist dictators are emerging in Venezuela, Ecuador and Brazil. It is also significant that Europe is slipping into “socialist neutrality.”

The danger is very great. But Americans will not believe in this danger because we feel superior. We feel invulnerable. Why should anyone conspire to destroy America? The answer is simple. The answer is that inferior nation-states, like inferior persons, sometimes hate those who are superior.

Julien Benda once wrote: “Our age is the age of the intellectual organization of political hatreds.” Now ask yourself who the organizers of political hatred are, and which nations have been targeted? Today, the central targets of organized political hatred are Israel and the United States.

First you hate, then you dehumanize, then you kill. That is the formula for mass destruction warfare. You don’t begin a war by nuking enemy cities. You begin by organizing hatred against target populations. You dehumanize your target. When you have united a large enough mass behind you, and they are eager for blood, then you can unleash your weapons of mass destruction. The world will stand up and cheer, and you will be its new master.

Hatred is a powerful unifying force. In his book, “The True Believer,” Eric Hoffer wrote: “hatred is not always directed against those who wronged us.” In fact, it is often directed at the good, the superior and the fortunate. Seeing that someone is superior to ourselves, we sometimes think ill of our abilities and prospects. “Self contempt produces in man the most unjust and criminal passions,” wrote Hoffer, who explained that hatred is often “an expression of a desperate effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy, worthlessness, guilt and other shortcomings of the self.”

If we look at the world around us, at the Arab world, the Chinese and the Russians, we find national inferiority complexes at work. And these help to explain the war preparations of Russia and China, and their justification by officials like Gen. Chi Haotian of China’s Communist Party Central Military Commission, who said in 1999: “War [with American imperialism] is inevitable. We cannot avoid it.” He also explained, “We must be prepared to fight for one year, two years, or even longer.”

[Paddy]

1. "Unlike commercial airliners, they filed no flight plan in advance."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ers/article.do

It is not a comercial flight plan but part of an existing agreement made over 20 years ago with NATO.
I assure you that the UK is notified. It was even announced on tv in Russian two weeks before the events.
The article link is a load of claptrap.

[Muttley08]

Another media hype.
1. The russians file a flight plan with the UK prior to their missions.
2. The UK have been playing the same game since 1990.
3. You can launch a cruise misle from any old aircraft; the result is the same.
4. The Eurofighter is no match for the new MIGs.

The Ruskie government got the money to develop a new MIG? Thought they spent it all on premiership footballers?