Someone is telling porkies

[vetran]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...cious-31032181

Halfords initially offered Mr Scott just £16,000 in compensation, which was eventually upped to £20,000 but Mr Scott rejected both. He says he was told the "root cause" of the issue had been his attempts to stop the two men.

Marty's wife Kim, 51, said the way her husband has been treated by his former employers is "appalling", adding that shoplifting is "out of control". She said: "This is what happens when someone tries to stop these people helping themselves." The firm's lawyers, though, told the Sun: "It is company policy not to attempt to retrieve stock or aggravate the situation and the claimant went directly against this policy, placing himself and potentially others at risk."

[SueEllen]

Just to add to the

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66972357



Guarantee he is going to appear as a Labour candidate.

What have we done wrong?

[JustKeepSwimming]

Just to add to the

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66972357

The boss of Iceland supermarkets, who had hoped to become a Conservative MP, has quit the party, labelling it "out of touch".

They added that he and his father had been lobbying very senior party figures over the summer, to try to secure Mr Walker a seat, while also pointing out that Labour had been in touch with him too.

Guarantee he is going to appear as a Labour candidate.

[JustKeepSwimming]

oink oink

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66925287

The boss of Iceland has been forced to apologise and retract a claim that three staff contracted HIV as a result of needle attacks.

Charities said there have been no recorded cases of HIV through needle attacks, and the most recent case of HIV being transmitted through a needle stick injury was in 1999. This is because the virus does not survive long outside of the body.

[JustKeepSwimming]

It is a credible risk albeit low, so is being killed by one punch, both are a pre meditated action to cause harm and should be treated as such.

Should we let off everyone who does 40 in a 30 because they actually don't kill that many people?

No one is saying its not possible. I'm saying it didn't happen 3 times to Iceland employees and the CEO is fearmongering for their own benefit.

Absolutely no idea what you are going on about with letting people off.

[vetran]

CDC has 'needle stick' transmission at 23 in 10,000 instances, so 0.23%. HIV really is a terribly designed virus for purposes of transmission.

It can survive in a syringe with blood for quite a while. The whole 'It doesn't survive outside the body' refers to dried blood.

It just reeks of the whole hysteria about people being stabbed with needles in nightclubs that turned out to be false because it made no sense.

It is a credible risk albeit low, so is being killed by one punch, both are a pre meditated action to cause harm and should be treated as such.

Should we let off everyone who does 40 in a 30 because they actually don't kill that many people?

[Paddy]

I don't doubt that some people are sickos who will try any means available to attack people. I thought that HIV doesn't survive very long outside the body so you could get it by sharing needles but I'd expect the risk of catching it from a pre prepared needle to be very slim. I have no stats on that, just a vague memory from the 80's / 90's where people were panicking about toilet seats and such like.

My mum used to do a lot of knitting. She told me she never shared needles.

[xoggoth]

If you have to catch it, not the most fun way.

[JustKeepSwimming]

I don't doubt that some people are sickos who will try any means available to attack people. I thought that HIV doesn't survive very long outside the body so you could get it by sharing needles but I'd expect the risk of catching it from a pre prepared needle to be very slim. I have no stats on that, just a vague memory from the 80's / 90's where people were panicking about toilet seats and such like.

CDC has 'needle stick' transmission at 23 in 10,000 instances, so 0.23%. HIV really is a terribly designed virus for purposes of transmission.

It can survive in a syringe with blood for quite a while. The whole 'It doesn't survive outside the body' refers to dried blood.

It just reeks of the whole hysteria about people being stabbed with needles in nightclubs that turned out to be false because it made no sense.

[ladymuck]

I don't doubt that some people are sickos who will try any means available to attack people. I thought that HIV doesn't survive very long outside the body so you could get it by sharing needles but I'd expect the risk of catching it from a pre prepared needle to be very slim. I have no stats on that, just a vague memory from the 80's / 90's where people were panicking about toilet seats and such like.

[vetran]

'Three of our store colleagues are now HIV positive as a result of needle attacks several years ago. Other assaults have resulted in injuries ranging from a broken jaw to a fractured skull.'

2005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-e...ected%20source.

12 serious incidents a week is unacceptable. Most factories would be shut down with such numbers.

Anyone using infected needles as weapons needs locking up for a long time.

[JustKeepSwimming]

Hypodermic attack is a thing, people will even tape used needles to the underside of handrails to stab people.

so it’s possible they are telling the truth

I'm not doubting that. I'm doubting the HIV infection, it happening once is extremely unlikely, 3 times is borderline impossible.

If you get stabbed with a needle, at work, you go to hospital. The Hospital will immediately give you PeP which is 98%+ effective at preventing infection, earlier you get it the better.

That's before you take into account the probability of actual transmission in the first place.

Far more likely they were stabbed, went to hospital and given PeP, whilst also being tested which came back positive for pre-existing infection and the boss has decided to run with it for his own benefit.

[Halo Jones]

Hypodermic attack is a thing, people will even tape used needles to the underside of handrails to stab people.

so it’s possible they are telling the truth

[JustKeepSwimming]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-attacks.html

Three Iceland staff are HIV positive after being attacked by shoplifters with hypodermic needles, the chain's boss has told MailOnline.