Reply to: Oh dear minimum wage pigeons roost

[vetran]

That's why we convince them to go back aged 35+ with some skills and knowing what "better" government looks like. In the UK we have university educated a lot of foreign politicians.

we did in the 70s & 80s most of our bedsit tenants were African Princes or Chinese middle class (their Dads were party members etc). The Arab sheiks just sons just rented mansions.

Most after attending UNI/Eton etc went back to run small countries.

Problem is if you come from less than royalty in a trumphole country then the UK seems like heaven or at least worth coming across the sea in a Dinghy.

"Better" being a relative term I suppose, Boris hasn't tried ethnic cleansing all scousers yet!

[SueEllen]

Your compassion shines through again.

Stop showing off your EQ.

[d000hg]

maybe they need to move to France, Portugal and Spain to ease their pain

Your compassion shines through again.

[SueEllen]

not in the numbers they need they are millions of jobs open.

As you say there is a shortage of young people and as I said willing to work for crap money.

Employers need to adapt its a perfect time to adopt automation rather than continue with the same routine and import cheap labour to exploit we need those people to fix their own countries with our help.

That's why we convince them to go back aged 35+ with some skills and knowing what "better" government looks like. In the UK we have university educated a lot of foreign politicians.

[vetran]

Actually young Brits use to go out to work in some jobs in those countries hospitality industries e.g. behind a bar, waitresses but now they can't.

It sounds like it is a demographic problem as birth rates have been falling all over Europe.

Guess they like us need to import more young people from Asia and Africa, then convince most of them to start f***ing off when they get to 35+

not in the numbers they need they are millions of jobs open.

As you say there is a shortage of young people and as I said willing to work for crap money.

Employers need to adapt its a perfect time to adopt automation rather than continue with the same routine and import cheap labour to exploit we need those people to fix their own countries with our help.

[SueEllen]

In the 90's Australian bar staff were all over London - what happened to them?

The Aussie dollar got stronger so there was no point in the young ones coming over and sleeping 3 to a room to save money to travel round Europe.

On the same note Polish people, who hadn't married/weren't in a long term relationships with a Brit, started disappearing just before Brexit as the pound had got weaker and the Polish economy had improved.


(And yes I spoke to people in that situation.)

[TheDude]

Actually young Brits use to go out to work in some jobs in those countries hospitality industries e.g. behind a bar, waitresses but now they can't.

It sounds like it is a demographic problem as birth rates have been falling all over Europe.

Guess they like us need to import more young people from Asia and Africa, then convince most of them to start f***ing off when they get to 35+

In the 90's Australian bar staff were all over London - what happened to them?

[SueEllen]

Yes because Brexit really caused that issue in Spain, Portugal & France as documented in the article. Or were we exporting millions brits willing to work for peanuts in the EU?

It seems Brexit has finally forced wages up and is improving job quality in the UK after years of abusing cheap labour glad you finally noticed it.

Breathe in, Breathe out

Actually young Brits use to go out to work in some jobs in those countries hospitality industries e.g. behind a bar, waitresses but now they can't.

It sounds like it is a demographic problem as birth rates have been falling all over Europe.

Guess they like us need to import more young people from Asia and Africa, then convince most of them to start f***ing off when they get to 35+

[vetran]

Yes they do. Loads of people are desperate to, when the choice is that or starving.

maybe they need to move to France, Portugal and Spain to ease their pain

[d000hg]

Its a global issue no one wants to work for crap money!

Yes they do. Loads of people are desperate to, when the choice is that or starving.

[vetran]

My brilliant brain voted remain so I am not surprised the hospitality sector which has traditionally relied on cheap migrant labour is struggling.

Yes because Brexit really caused that issue in Spain, Portugal & France as documented in the article. Or were we exporting millions brits willing to work for peanuts in the EU?

It seems Brexit has finally forced wages up and is improving job quality in the UK after years of abusing cheap labour glad you finally noticed it.

Breathe in, Breathe out

[TheDude]

What does your brilliant brain think about multiple hotel groups publicly admitting they have become less fussy because they cannot find staff post pandemic?

My brilliant brain voted remain so I am not surprised the hospitality sector which has traditionally relied on cheap migrant labour is struggling.

[vetran]

Have you ever considered the benefits of independent thought over regurgitating the Daily Mails interpretation?

What does your brilliant brain think about multiple hotel groups publicly admitting they have become less fussy because they cannot find staff post pandemic?

[TheDude]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...interview.html

Have you ever considered the benefits of independent thought over regurgitating the Daily Mails interpretation?

[Zigenare]

Actually partially agree but when I was a kid I did hospitality work to pay for college as did my kids for UNI. Many workers are students but the core are frequently those people that were well below average at school and just need a job.

Its only crap work if you think you are too good for it.

FTFY - Gratis