Reply to: DOOM: The Third Wave

[malvolio]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/s...th-and-lambeth


The vaccines don't work so effectively against the South African variant especially AZ.

It's marginally more infective, partially because it withstands the body's immune response for longer. It's not any more deadly in real terms.

But if you think the sky is falling, who am I to argue.

[SueEllen]

Vote Green! Climate crisis!

Please don't climb on a commuter train...

[_V_]

Yeah because there is a real choice in the opposition!

Vote Green! Climate crisis!

[SueEllen]

OK, we're all doomed, the vaccines are ineffective and only a bunch of non-qualified non-epidemiologosts know the truth. I stand corrected.

Meanwhile, back in reality...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/s...th-and-lambeth


The vaccines don't work so effectively against the South African variant especially AZ.

[vetran]

FTFY

Yeah because there is a real choice in the opposition!

[Andy2]

DOOM
COVID-19 south africa Strain May 'Break Through' Pfizer Vaccine, Early Results Show
https://www.sciencealert.com/african...ew-study-found

[malvolio]

Ask the Brazilians and more importantly those on the South American continent what happens when one country on the continent allows their Covid infections to get out of control even if you, yourself, have a vaccinated population.....

OK, we're all doomed, the vaccines are ineffective and only a bunch of non-qualified non-epidemiologosts know the truth. I stand corrected.

Meanwhile, back in reality...

[SueEllen]

Infection rates are not the measure.

Death rates are the important bit, followed by hospitalisation rates.

Both are heading down.

Ask the Brazilians and more importantly those on the South American continent what happens when one country on the continent allows their Covid infections to get out of control even if you, yourself, have a vaccinated population.....

[malvolio]

Infection rates are not the measure.

Death rates are the important bit, followed by hospitalisation rates.

Both are heading down.

[mallisarealperson]

There is a super-variant in North America. Transmits really fast and makes your arms go up and down.

Think it is called "The Mexican Wave"

[_V_]

Anyone with a brain, heart or conscience, won’t vote Tory Scum anyway

FTFY

[AtW]

Young people won’t vote Tories anyway

[SueEllen]

There are plenty of people around who can see how a virus spreads.

Unfortunately none of them are in government.

If we get a third wave hopefully this government is done for especially if it causes younger people who are key workers to end up with long Covid.

[AtW]

Virus hotspots could lead to third Covid wave in UK, scientists warn

""Leading scientists warned last night that the government was risking a third wave of Covid-19 by easing the lockdown at a time when official data still shows virus hotspots across many parts of the country.

With the UK poised to lift many Covid restrictions on Monday, the scientists accuse ministers of abandoning their promises to “follow the data, not dates” in a rush to reopen society and the economy.

A more cautious, sensible approach would be to wait until more among the tens of millions of people who have yet to be inoculated have had their vaccinations, they say. In addition, they point out that without an adequate system for isolating people who become infected, there could be significant rises in daily Covid cases that could erupt over the next few weeks.

Stephen Griffin, of Leeds University medical school, told the Observer: “There are areas in West Yorkshire, the Black Country and other regions that still have high infection rates. However, many people there cannot afford to self-isolate. We need to tackle that issue urgently or the virus will come back again.”

The government has said it would not lift restrictions until infection levels are low enough but Griffin said that its promise to follow “data not dates” now appeared to have been abandoned."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cientists-warn

If only they listened to the leading CUK poster

[AtW]

“Boris Johnson branded irresponsible over ‘back to the office’ call

Scientists alarmed as prime minister suggests people have had enough ‘days off’ while Labour pushes the right to work from home”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...he-office-call

“Hospital Covid wards nearly empty and morgues are ready - go back to vok proles!”