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We must all do our bit to protect the vulnerable after all. Especially the elderly.
Oh wait a minute, looks like even the elderly are selfish.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/04/40-of...cine-14185234/
I knew this would happen. Once people get the first jab, it's back to normal. Stuff the fact half the economy is knackered as a result of protecting them.
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There hasn't yet been sufficient time to do human challenge trials.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostAre NHS staff required to have Measles jab, because that seems more comparable as a transmissible disease for which the population are routinely vaccinated?
Nursing students aren't allowed on their degree course without a measles vaccination.
Funny thing is all the people who are complaining about it being unfair to have the vaccination on radio are nurses...
There as the doctors say they want "encourage" people to have vaccination and will happily talk to them about their fears.
Edited to say: I know people in rl I can discuss vaccine hesitancy with who are medical professionals but they will just think I'm a nutter due to the tulip they've had to suffer.
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Are NHS staff required to have Measles jab, because that seems more comparable as a transmissible disease for which the population are routinely vaccinated?
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIt's fair if they sign a waiver that there are no comebacks. Construction workers aren't allowed on site without safety equipment - this is an NHS equivalent.
Go on a building site without a hard hat, brick falls on you from above, tough.
In the NHS, Care Home, Prison etc you can injury or kill someone else. You can't sign a waiver to cover that as the employer/company has a duty of care to other staff, workers and users of the service.
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Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
Cods wallop. Human challenge trials of the real virus have only just started. Patently there was no money in the trial for those creating the vaccines which is why it has been left to the real scientist to investigate.Last edited by SueEllen; 3 March 2021, 14:18.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIt's fair if they sign a waiver that there are no comebacks. Construction workers aren't allowed on site without safety equipment - this is an NHS equivalent.
Go on a building site without a hard hat, brick falls on you from above, tough.
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Originally posted by Great Parks View Post
I'd be interested to hear what your symptoms were.
I have very mild respiratory symptoms for 3 days then extreme fatigue with headache behind the eyes for a further week and loss of sense of smell and taste. Back to 100% after a fortnight.
On balance, I'd rather go through that than either of the 2 bouts of flu that I've had over the last 10 years. Tore my lungs apart on both occasions. Nasty.
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It's fair if they sign a waiver that there are no comebacks. Construction workers aren't allowed on site without safety equipment - this is an NHS equivalent.
Go on a building site without a hard hat, brick falls on you from above, tough.
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Human challenge isn’t necessary to establish if vaccine cuts transmissions also - it’s not like this is the first ever vaccine that does it
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there are varying degrees of anti-bodies from Covid depending on factors we don't know for sure, but with a jab it's all scientifically calcualted to get enough anti-bodies to provide specified degree of protection (that was actually tested in real world).
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Originally posted by NigelJK View PostIf recall correctly I was vilified for pointing ut that if you have had the virus you are immune and jabbing someone who is immune is a. Pointless b. Causes worse effects than on a non-immune patient.
Also with new variants prior infection of Covid no longer guarantees tulip.
Either way, going forward anybody without a GREEN passport will be confined to their dwelling most of the time - otherwise it would be treated as bioterrorism
HTH
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If recall correctly I was vilified for pointing ut that if you have had the virus you are immune and jabbing someone who is immune is a. Pointless b. Causes worse effects than on a non-immune patient.
It was pointed out to me that those in the NHS were at risk of repeated doses of the virus from infected patients and that was why they required top notch protection. Does this jab help those at risk of repeated infection? If not then then I suggest natural immunity is sufficient.
What a pity the only test available to NHS patients is whether you have it or not, for the statistics, not whether you are immune.
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostHas it been proven that the vaccine prevents transmission as well as illness? I thought that one still needed more data.
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