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Previously on "Brutal state crackdown on freedom loving folk"

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    Tweet not available to me.

    Edited to say - now it appears.

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  • NickFitz
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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    Apparently hospitals, NHS Trusts and so on are under direct orders from ministers not to allow media in at all. The stuff on the BBC programme Hospital showing the system getting near collapse last spring was embarrassing to the government, and as things are even worse this time around, they don't want anybody to see.

    See Mirror journalist Susie Boniface's tweet https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/s...28915182202886 "For those wondering why journalists aren’t showing you what’s happening in hospitals - we can’t break in, and the ministers refuse access. An individual overriding that would lose their job, a trust would lose funding." in response to Dr. Rachel Clarke's thread starting at https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/st...86319536803840 which states that "7. Senior clinicians in multiple hospitals tell me they are desperate to show the reality inside our ICUs, wards and EDs. They aren't allowed to. All comms have been centralised. 8. I know this to be true at a Trust level too. CEOs who *want* to show the truth and can't."

    This government doesn't really care if medical staff get abused by idiots who think the whole thing's a hoax, so they won't show us the things that would prove it isn't. It might lose them votes or, even worse, make the editor of the Daily Mail say nasty things about them
    Looks like they've cracked: https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...31012669607939

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  • NickFitz
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    To be fair, have any of use seen any videos of people in hospitals?

    If it was Africa with starving children we'd have Lenny Henry down there and that token white girl who David Lammy doesn't like

    Not seen any UK hospitals? Anyone?
    Apparently hospitals, NHS Trusts and so on are under direct orders from ministers not to allow media in at all. The stuff on the BBC programme Hospital showing the system getting near collapse last spring was embarrassing to the government, and as things are even worse this time around, they don't want anybody to see.

    See Mirror journalist Susie Boniface's tweet https://twitter.com/fleetstreetfox/s...28915182202886 "For those wondering why journalists aren’t showing you what’s happening in hospitals - we can’t break in, and the ministers refuse access. An individual overriding that would lose their job, a trust would lose funding." in response to Dr. Rachel Clarke's thread starting at https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/st...86319536803840 which states that "7. Senior clinicians in multiple hospitals tell me they are desperate to show the reality inside our ICUs, wards and EDs. They aren't allowed to. All comms have been centralised. 8. I know this to be true at a Trust level too. CEOs who *want* to show the truth and can't."

    This government doesn't really care if medical staff get abused by idiots who think the whole thing's a hoax, so they won't show us the things that would prove it isn't. It might lose them votes or, even worse, make the editor of the Daily Mail say nasty things about them

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    To be fair, have any of use seen any videos of people in hospitals?
    No. Plenty of eye witnesses and photos though.

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  • MarillionFan
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    To be fair, have any of use seen any videos of people in hospitals?

    If it was Africa with starving children we'd have Lenny Henry down there and that token white girl who David Lammy doesn't like

    Not seen any UK hospitals? Anyone?

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
    Can't they just be injected with weapons-grade CV19 just to test their theory?
    That would simply reaffirm that it is man made.

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  • NickFitz
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    They should tell them custody is busy and they'll have to be detained on a Covid ward for a few hours before they can be processed. See if they think the clicks were worth it then

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
    So they think Covid is a hoax.

    Can't they just be injected with weapons-grade CV19 just to test their theory?

    No hospital care allowed of course because obviously they can't be sick if it doesn't exist
    Unfortunately, as a civilised population we have to extend the same courtesy to those we want to put in jail.

    Actually, jail is apparently a good place to get Covid and other illnesses....

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  • Dark Black
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    So they think Covid is a hoax.

    Can't they just be injected with weapons-grade CV19 just to test their theory?

    No hospital care allowed of course because obviously they can't be sick if it doesn't exist

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Setenced to emptying bed pans for a year?
    Do you trust them in a hospital?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Setenced to emptying bed pans for a year?

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  • AtW
    started a topic Brutal state crackdown on freedom loving folk

    Brutal state crackdown on freedom loving folk

    "Four arrested over 'public nuisance' at Redditch and Birmingham hospitals

    Four men have been arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance at hospitals in the West Midlands.

    The men, aged between 31 and 37, were held in relation to incidents in Birmingham and Worcestershire between 31 December and 9 January.

    Earlier this month, police said they were investigating after people posted videos of supposedly empty hospital corridors on social media.

    The videos claiming Covid-19 was a hoax sparked an outcry from medical workers.

    West Mercia Police launched a joint investigation with West Midlands Police after incidents were reported at Birmingham's Queen Elizabeth Hospital and the Alexandra in Redditch.

    Hospitals in Worcester and Kidderminster also featured, before the footage was deleted.

    The West Mercia force confirmed it had arrested two men from Bromsgrove aged 31 and 34 as well as a 37 year-old man from Kidderminster and a fourth man, aged 34, from Droitwich.

    They were also detained relating to incidents in a park in Bromsgrove as well as the town centre."

    Source: Four arrested over '''public nuisance''' at Redditch and Birmingham hospitals - BBC News

    Surely that was Malicious Communication -

    "1 Offence of sending letters etc. with intent to cause distress or anxiety.
    (1)Any person who sends to another person—
    (a)a [F1letter, electronic communication or article of any description] which conveys—
    (i)a message which is indecent or grossly offensive;
    (ii)a threat; or
    (iii)information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender; or
    (b)any [F2article or electronic communication] which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,"

    Malicious Communications Act 1988

    So if it's electronic than it does not matter if it's "false and known or believed to be false by the sender", nice loophole for politicians.

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