Reply to: The Wuhan Flu?

[Paddy]

World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Tuesday urged a deeper investigation into whether the coronavirus outbreak originated with a leak from a lab, as world leaders pushed for a treaty to prepare for future pandemics.

A report by WHO and Chinese experts, published Tuesday, judged the lab-leak hypothesis highly unlikely, saying the virus behind Covid-19 had probably jumped from bats to humans via an intermediary animal.

But a potential leak “requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts”, Tedros said.

He added that the international team had difficulty accessing raw data during the mission to China, demanding “more timely and comprehensive data-sharing” in the future.

The United States, in a statement with 13 allies including Australia, Britain, Canada, Japan and South Korea, voiced concern over the report and said that the mission to China “was significantly delayed and lacked access to complete, original data and samples”.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...vid-19-origins

[BlasterBates]

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-new...mans-for-years

By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," said one of the researchers, immunologist Kristian Andersen at Scripps Research.

Two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2.

Of course you can't rule out that it originated from a bat kept at the Lab.

[AtW]

China successfully contained the virus by doing what needed to be done - West failed miserably in that, this is by far more important where virus came from - it will happen again in 10-15 years

[OwlHoot]

.. No country is officially going to blame the Wuhan lab least of all the WHO.

True, and besides not wishing to upset China another reason is that international teams, including from the US, worked at the lab.

So morally they are equally to blame if/as its biosecurity was as ropey as we're led to believe!

[Paddy]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...origins-report

"The US and the UK have sharply criticised a World Health Organization report into the beginnings of the coronavirus pandemic in Wuhan, implicitly accusing China of “withholding access to complete, original data and samples”.

Well we wait a year to get access and come out with a report that has discovered nothing.
Glad we pay millions into the WHO budget. And China allowed to get away with this by the rest of the world.

Originally I was sceptical about the lab leak theory but since then I have leaned that the lab is only a few hundred metres from the wet-market and there have been two previous instances of leaks from the lab. Furthermore, there is an unexplained seven generation jump of the virus to get to covid-19 and the only explanation is human interference via a lab. No country is officially going to blame the Wuhan lab least of all the WHO.

[OwlHoot]

Covid: Wuhan scientist would '''welcome''' visit probing lab leak theory - BBC News

Yea, right!

It would be like that Bond film when they go to investigate a clandestine nerve gas lab and find the villains sipping tea in comfy sofas in a wood panelled sitting room

[AtW]

And China allowed to get away with this by the rest of the world.

A priviledge of a Major Power.

[saptastic]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...origins-report

"The US and the UK have sharply criticised a World Health Organization report into the beginnings of the coronavirus pandemic in Wuhan, implicitly accusing China of “withholding access to complete, original data and samples”.

Well we wait a year to get access and come out with a report that has discovered nothing.
Glad we pay millions into the WHO budget. And China allowed to get away with this by the rest of the world.

[AtW]

One year + after it started and after their 2 weeks of quarantine

Oh wow, mean Chinese are making visitors (during pandemic) quarantine for realz for whole 2 weeks, they are hiding something for sure!!!



It's all clean in Wuhan, been cleaned up at 10 months ago - when Boris was first shaking hands with hospital patients and people like you were saying that Covid is just like a flu.

[saptastic]

COVID-19: WHO scientists arrive in Wuhan to begin investigating origins of pandemic | World News | Sky News

This is great news.

One year + after it started and after their 2 weeks of quarantine, I am sure China will help them easily find the answers which will help understand the origins and stop related future outbreaks.

[saptastic]

China denies entry to team of WHO experts due to investigate the origins of Covid-19 | Daily Mail Online

'Today, we learned that Chinese officials have not yet finalised the necessary permissions for the team's arrival in China,' he said at a news conference Tuesday in Geneva.

'I am very disappointed with this news, given that two members had already begun their journeys and others were not able to travel at the last minute,' Tedros told reporters in Geneva, in a rare rebuke of Beijing from the UN body.

Also reported on the BBC.


One year on and the pointless WHO are not allowed into Wuhan to investigate or validate anything.
This story has a long way to run and will continue. No balls from the international community.

[NotAllThere]

Same with internet forums.

I love you too.

[Hobosapien]

The end result is the same as it was over centuries - countries with good administrators pull forward and others got to tulips

Same with internet forums.

[AtW]

COVID response to help China become world's biggest economy five years early | Business News | Sky News

Ah ha - Now I see the end result.....

The end result is the same as it was over centuries - countries with good administrators pull forward and others got to tulips

[NotAllThere]

are other countries now not able to manufacture even the PPE kits.

Many countries have switched to home production. Don't panic.