Reply to: Move to remote working and the impact on the contractor market?

[Old Greg]

i see the OCD troll's around again.

And a Merry Christmas to you, Sir!

[BR14]

i see the OCD troll's around again.

[Old Greg]

I've been 99% WFH for the last 14 years.
based in NL and UK, clients all over Europe.
I won't be changing this.

Neither will they

[BR14]

I've been 99% WFH for the last 14 years.
based in NL and UK, clients all over Europe.
I won't be changing this.

[ShandyDrinker]

If you WFH loads before the pandemic it will continue. Some of my clients have had large amounts of WFH as it saved them loads of money on office space.

I really do hope you're right.

For a number of the clients I've worked with, the only reason for the significant amounts of WFH has been because either 1) they've been US based so it didn't really matter where I worked or 2) they were moving to agile working which, let's face it, was another way of saying they didn't have sufficient desk space so would often have to go onto a desk booking/rota type system.

[reddog]

If you WFH loads before the pandemic it will continue. Some of my clients have had large amounts of WFH as it saved them loads of money on office space.

I worked at one place a few years ago, that built an impressive Google style building with the "smart work" concept, with no one having their own desk.

We were told by the country head, please work at home as much as you want, you are actually doing us a favour if you WFH. One problem, the manager in our area was very old school and insisted every one had to be on-site at all times, unless they have a good reason not to be. I think this sort of attitude will soon disappear.

[SueEllen]

Remote working will remain a norm as long as it needs to and no longer. As we were given a taste of things to come in September with the constant rhetoric from government about returning to offices, as soon as they think it is safe to do so the propaganda, rhetoric and spin machines will kick into motion. Whether commercial or residential property, there are Conservative party donors to think of who won't take kindly to the decimation of their property values if companies move out of large cities.

For the record I think we'll see remote working continue for the majority of 2021 and perhaps even into early 2022 but after that expect a push to have people pointlessly commuting (when they can work from home) to bolster GDP.

Having spent much of the last 4-5 years in various contracts with large amounts of WFH, I expect this to stop.

I think the death of the office is vastly overrated.

If you WFH loads before the pandemic it will continue. Some of my clients have had large amounts of WFH as it saved them loads of money on office space.

[GhostofTarbera]

Remote working will remain a norm as long as it needs to and no longer. As we were given a taste of things to come in September with the constant rhetoric from government about returning to offices, as soon as they think it is safe to do so the propaganda, rhetoric and spin machines will kick into motion. Whether commercial or residential property, there are Conservative party donors to think of who won't take kindly to the decimation of their property values if companies move out of large cities.

For the record I think we'll see remote working continue for the majority of 2021 and perhaps even into early 2022 but after that expect a push to have people pointlessly commuting (when they can work from home) to bolster GDP.

Having spent much of the last 4-5 years in various contracts with large amounts of WFH, I expect this to stop.

I think the death of the office is vastly overrated.

My client is not renewing its office lease any any of its 5 world wide locations

WFH forever


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[ShandyDrinker]

Remote working will remain a norm as long as it needs to and no longer. As we were given a taste of things to come in September with the constant rhetoric from government about returning to offices, as soon as they think it is safe to do so the propaganda, rhetoric and spin machines will kick into motion. Whether commercial or residential property, there are Conservative party donors to think of who won't take kindly to the decimation of their property values if companies move out of large cities.

For the record I think we'll see remote working continue for the majority of 2021 and perhaps even into early 2022 but after that expect a push to have people pointlessly commuting (when they can work from home) to bolster GDP.

Having spent much of the last 4-5 years in various contracts with large amounts of WFH, I expect this to stop.

I think the death of the office is vastly overrated.

[AtW]

Offshoring will be to new places - like Bham

HS2 is for the Directors to escape back to London just in time for the Opera

[NotAllThere]

Yes 180 day guys are just as good as 900 London in office 9-5 guys


Plus will work 5 hours a day more

Nah. They actually work fewer hours for you. They're just quicker workers. With multiple concurrent clients.

That is why nearshoring is a thing. CZ is booming with Deutsche Bourse et al.

Nearshoring is good, however you still can lose out on continuity. Anyway, rates will generally increase there while decreasing here... then increase again. They won't be cheap for ever.

[ladymuck]

I would definitely agree that CZ, Slovakia, Poland is the way to go instead of India, which is still painful even after all these years.

Anyone get any opinions on Vietnam as an offshore location? Seems to be a fast growing location.

I read about Wipro (I think, I may have mis-remembered but it is one of the Indian outfits) setting up a base in Vietnam and committing to hiring about 3,000 locals. It seems to be creeping onto the scene.

[reddog]

That is why nearshoring is a thing. CZ is booming with Deutsche Bourse et al.

Transferable skills are where it is at. Have a backup plan for your IT career. I would not recommend motorsport at the moment.

I would definitely agree that CZ, Slovakia, Poland is the way to go instead of India, which is still painful even after all these years.

Anyone get any opinions on Vietnam as an offshore location? Seems to be a fast growing location.

[anonymouse]

Public sector contractor. WFH until Covid is under control, then back in the office 5 days a week. The office is under Tier 4, we have been in Tier 3 for months.

[clearedforlanding]

WBS says.Offshoring works in certain specific scenarios, but as soon as you need real skill it becomes rapidly less cost effective.

That is why nearshoring is a thing. CZ is booming with Deutsche Bourse et al.

Transferable skills are where it is at. Have a backup plan for your IT career. I would not recommend motorsport at the moment.