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[Old Greg]

This is where Alfred J turned up - he turned out to be a nutjob:

My new poem: Choose Childhood | Keep Britain Free

My new poem: Choose Childhood
As the madness continues, I will keep writing poetry to document events. In time, I might get around to writing Corona Diaries Part 2. This is one inspired by the narrative that we need to taint countless childhoods in the name of protecting the elderly, whilst it is very clear that those in power don't actually give a stuff about our old folk. All this achieves is to instill shame and guilt in our young for daring to want to live and feeds into the divide and rule agenda.




Chose Childhood





Let them embrace life’s magic,


It’s closer to their spirit.


Allow those days of wonder,


And treasure every minute.





A fleeting state where carefree days,


Create best memories.


So one day when they’re old and grey,


They’ll play like melodies.





Fill not their days with worry,


Keep shamefulness at bay.


Don’t say they’ve murdered Grandma,


For their Human Right to play!





They’re no-one’s sacrificial lambs,


Don’t slaughter fun and laughter.


Don’t make them wait for better days,


To long for what comes after.





Don’t taint what is most precious,


Mask their joy or tie their feet.


In time, will they forgive us,


For a childhood incomplete?





The present is the only gift,


That we can, to them, bestow.


Fill it with life’s simple joys,


And unbridled, let them grow.

[Old Greg]

Last time the brainwashed asked that I quoted from the peer-reviewed study they themselves had quoted.

If you are saying that natural immunity does not work, but only for this virus not all of the others since vaccination was discovered, then why bother with a vaccine?

As per usual follow the money.

Are you slow? I'm querying whether over 98% people really would be better off getting natural immunity.

[jayn200]

That we know about. How many asymptomatic people have had the virus (whether once or more than once) which nobody knows about, including those infected?
We have a vaccine, therefore no drug company is going to invest serious money into finding out whether we didn't actually need it, or whether we did actually need it.

I do agree that there is no incentive for drug companies to do those studies. Of course not.

Just saying it's weird how the default assumption by a lot of people is that this virus will not behave as other viruses do in the absence of other information. It's just a really weird assumption. When you are lacking information about something and you need to make an assumption the highest quality assumption always comes from the closest proximity case. If you look at other coronaviruses we do indeed get natural immunity to them. That should be the assumption for covid-19 until there is data to prove otherwise.

[d000hg]

I haven't heard that lots of people are immune, though many are asymptomatic. If most were immune, surely it would be nowhere near so infectious (R0 = 3ish IIRC)?

[Mordac]

Just curious who suspects that and why? There is only a handful of confirmed reinfections globally and it's been a year now. Of course proper study needs to be conducted but its weird to think in the absence of more information that you would think this would behave differently then other viruses even coronaviruses where immunity lasts (people get colds frequently because they are getting different strains). Covid-19 thankfully has been very slow to mutate.

That we know about. How many asymptomatic people have had the virus (whether once or more than once) which nobody knows about, including those infected?
We have a vaccine, therefore no drug company is going to invest serious money into finding out whether we didn't actually need it, or whether we did actually need it.

[AtW]

If you are saying that natural immunity does not work

Err, it works BUT there is long Covid problem for a lot of people who got it (this will be massive drag on health services if everybody gets Covid "naturally")

[NigelJK]

I'm guessing you can't link to the peer reviewed research for that stat.

Last time the brainwashed asked that I quoted from the peer-reviewed study they themselves had quoted.

If you are saying that natural immunity does not work, but only for this virus not all of the others since vaccination was discovered, then why bother with a vaccine?

As per usual follow the money.

[Old Greg]

I’ll add you to my list of people with irrational DOOM worries

FTFY

[AtW]

Sounds like a fun place to visit! I just worry I'll end up on 'a list' somewhere

I’ll add you to my list of people with irrational worries

[jayn200]

Now we have a vaccine, who's going to spend billions to prove what is already suspected - that natural immunity is very temporary?

Just curious who suspects that and why? There is only a handful of confirmed reinfections globally and it's been a year now. Of course proper study needs to be conducted but its weird to think in the absence of more information that you would think this would behave differently then other viruses even coronaviruses where immunity lasts (people get colds frequently because they are getting different strains). Covid-19 thankfully has been very slow to mutate.

[Old Greg]

What a pity there is no test for immunity (that the authorities are willing to accept) so that millions of doses will be administered unnecessarily. TBH over 98% people would be better off getting natural immunity.

I'm guessing you can't link to the peer reviewed research for that stat.

[Mordac]

What a pity there is no test for immunity (that the authorities are willing to accept) so that millions of doses will be administered unnecessarily. TBH over 98% people would be better off getting natural immunity.

Now we have a vaccine, who's going to spend billions to prove what is already suspected - that natural immunity is very temporary?

[NigelJK]

The vaccine is optional anyway, so we'll probably see some Darwinian natural selection at work for those who choose not to take it.

What a pity there is no test for immunity (that the authorities are willing to accept) so that millions of doses will be administered unnecessarily. TBH over 98% people would be better off getting natural immunity.

[Mordac]

Oh. So you DON'T want to keep Britain free.

Their definition of 'free' is a bit bonkers*. I don't think we're about to get brain implants (certainly not at £3 a dose). The vaccine is optional anyway, so we'll probably see some Darwinian natural selection at work for those who choose not to take it.

*What I actually want to say will probably get me mod-snipped and banned

[Mordac]

Sounds like a fun place to visit! I just worry I'll end up on 'a list' somewhere

In a padded cell, more likely...