Reply to: Thicko thought for the day

[Old Greg]

Interestingly, the number of deaths from dementia is falling.

UK dementia deaths decline by largest number in 20 years



So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

Dementia in Brexiteers is easily confused with cretinism, hence the change in the statistics.

[Old Greg]

Is that your takeaway from the article?

I wouldn't mind a decent takeaway.

[AtW]

Sokies banned over 28 days since discovery of being a sockie are therefore banned for a cause rather than sockie hatred

[Paralytic]

If it takes you 29 days to die of Covid, it's no longer reported as a covid death.
If you die of pneumonia 75 days after a positive test, and the pneumonia is because of fluid in your lungs from having had Covid, it's not a Covid death
If you have a heart attack out walking due to your impaired lung function 6 weeks after testing positive, it's not a Covid death.

That's why excess deaths is a better way to look at what's actually happening

Yes, what I said (though I could have been clearer that I meant excess deaths when I stated ONS figures)

[_V_]

To me, it looks like Government figures have revealed that Dementia deaths have declined by the largest number in 20 years.

100%

[Paralytic]

No, what was yours?

To me, it looks like Government figures have revealed that Dementia deaths have declined by the largest number in 20 years.

Or, they used a spreadsheet to count them.

[_V_]

If it takes you 29 days to die of Covid, it's no longer reported as a covid death.
If you die of pneumonia 75 days after a positive test, and the pneumonia is because of fluid in your lungs from having had Covid, it's not a Covid death
If you have a heart attack out walking due to your impaired lung function 6 weeks after testing positive, it's not a Covid death.

That's why excess deaths is a better way to look at what's actually happening

100%

[WTFH]

If it takes you 29 days to die of Covid, it's no longer reported as a covid death.
If you die of pneumonia 75 days after a positive test, and the pneumonia is because of fluid in your lungs from having had Covid, it's not a Covid death
If you have a heart attack out walking due to your impaired lung function 6 weeks after testing positive, it's not a Covid death.

That's why excess deaths is a better way to look at what's actually happening

[Andy2]

Interestingly, the number of deaths from dementia is falling.

UK dementia deaths decline by largest number in 20 years



So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

maybe they forgot to count exact numbers

[_V_]

Is that your takeaway from the article?

No, what was yours?

[ladymuck]

Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths using that measure.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But, such scenarios would just be noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

The first measure is within 60 days. Not sure what the difference is between the two

[Paralytic]

So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

Is that your takeaway from the article?

[_V_]

Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But such instances are just noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

Interestingly, the number of deaths from dementia is falling.

UK dementia deaths decline by largest number in 20 years

Dementia deaths have declined by the largest number in 20 years, Government figures have revealed.

So Covid-19 is a cure for dementia?

[Paralytic]

But what if you had covid, recovered and then get run over by a bus?

Daft as it sounds, if the bus hit you within 28 days, you'd be included in the covid deaths using that measure.

But, if you die on day 29, even if there is a strong indicator that it was Covid related, you'd not be.

But, such scenarios would just be noise in the grand scheme of things - so long as a consistent measurement is used, the figures can be used to determine trends. The ONS figures show that the absolute "positive within previous 28 days" figures should be treated with caution.

[ladymuck]

But what if you had covid, recovered and then get run over by a bus?