Reply to: ‘ Millennials can’t pay any more’ – Covid-19 will mean tax increases for older gen

[Whorty]

It is not about hard work anymore, partially it matters but it has degraded into disturbing culture where managers are recruiting their underlying not by their ability to do the job but how they would be able to do the managers agenda.

So the corporate world is creating an underclass of people based on their ability to serve the establisment.

80% or more of the corporate staff are drowning in bad politics and serving the needs of a network of managers.

People might say it is how people act but I believe it is by design.

And most of the people are to ignorant to understand it or act upon it.

I’ve worked in 3 contries and sold my services to market leading organisations. I never had the support of anyone apart from myself. I failed many times, picked up myself and found a new way.
But this system is inherently faulty and will stay so.

There was a quote somewhere about the gratest evil of this society being 1000ph people telling the 100ph underlyings that the 10ph people are at fault. And making them suffer for it.

Meritocracy is long gone.

You're a contractor - why should you care who a manager hires into the perm positions?

I've said it before and I'll say it again - get your head down, graft, do the job you're contracted to do to the best of your ability and stop getting angry at what others are doing.

Interesting that you say you failed but it's the system that is at fault. Sounds like you're maybe not as good as you think you are, you're trying to do roles you're not skilled enough to do and when you're found out you blame others. Making mistakes is fine so long as you take ownership for those mistakes and learn from them.

[GigiBronz]

Us old farts have grafted hard over the years to get where we are; you, however, seem to want it handed to you on a plate but when it isn't you blame others for your failures. Problem for you is, there are plenty of your peers who are willing to work hard and you're competing against these. Change your attitude mate or forever be angry and a loser - the power is in your hands only.

It is not about hard work anymore, partially it matters but it has degraded into disturbing culture where managers are recruiting their underlying not by their ability to do the job but how they would be able to do the managers agenda.

So the corporate world is creating an underclass of people based on their ability to serve the establisment.

80% or more of the corporate staff are drowning in bad politics and serving the needs of a network of managers.

People might say it is how people act but I believe it is by design.

And most of the people are to ignorant to understand it or act upon it.

I’ve worked in 3 contries and sold my services to market leading organisations. I never had the support of anyone apart from myself. I failed many times, picked up myself and found a new way.
But this system is inherently faulty and will stay so.

There was a quote somewhere about the gratest evil of this society being 1000ph people telling the 100ph underlyings that the 10ph people are at fault. And making them suffer for it.

Meritocracy is long gone.

[Old Greg]

What about the global malaria problem? What about global warming? What about global wealth inequality? What about global .... (Fill in relevant issue here)?

Where do you stop? Just keep taxing rich people's assets till there is nothing left... Why not right? Let's transfer assets.. from people who use them productively to produce more assets .. to unproductive governments who will squander them.

That's great for everyone right? I'm sure global wealth will increase.. I'm sure poor people will be much better off.

Countries will just print their debts away anyway and transfer wealth from the population that way, at least when they do that it hits everyone relatively equally.

Ah the slippery slope fallacy. Nice.

[LondonManc]

What about the global malaria problem? What about global warming? What about global wealth inequality? What about global .... (Fill in relevant issue here)?

Where do you stop? Just keep taxing rich people's assets till there is nothing left... Why not right? Let's transfer assets.. from people who use them productively to produce more assets .. to unproductive governments who will squander them.

That's great for everyone right? I'm sure global wealth will increase.. I'm sure poor people will be much better off.

Countries will just print their debts away anyway and transfer wealth from the population that way, at least when they do that it hits everyone relatively equally.

Yes, no. In that order.

The 0.1% are accelerating away from the rest of the world. They are the ones who can change things but it is not in their interest to do so.

[jayn200]

This is a global crisis and if countries acted together to put a tax on the assets of the richest 0.01% of the world population, that would help matters. Treat non-payment as tax evasion and put out Interpol warrants for tax evaders.

What about the global malaria problem? What about global warming? What about global wealth inequality? What about global .... (Fill in relevant issue here)?

Where do you stop? Just keep taxing rich people's assets till there is nothing left... Why not right? Let's transfer assets.. from people who use them productively to produce more assets .. to unproductive governments who will squander them.

That's great for everyone right? I'm sure global wealth will increase.. I'm sure poor people will be much better off.

Countries will just print their debts away anyway and transfer wealth from the population that way, at least when they do that it hits everyone relatively equally.

[Old Greg]

What an absurd idea.

If every country acted together like that, and redistributed the funds equally then everyone would end up with the equivalent of an extra 2p. Woopy doo!

It's not about redistributing equally, it's about paying the cost of Covid.

And if it were about redistribution, it would come in and somewhat more than 2p per head.

[OwlHoot]

This is a global crisis and if countries acted together to put a tax on the assets of the richest 0.01% of the world population, that would help matters. Treat non-payment as tax evasion and put out Interpol warrants for tax evaders.

What an absurd idea.

If every country acted together like that, and redistributed the funds equally then everyone would end up with the equivalent of an extra 2p. Woopy doo!

[SueEllen]

I don’t think the Torres have any master plan to balance the books. They make up things as they go along, any strategy is likely only for the next one week. At the moment, as long as they can borrow or print money, they are coming up with bizarre ideas to spend it.

Paying back government debt is never a short term goal, it’s always a problem for the next government that comes in.

Which at this rate will be Labour.

[fullyautomatix]

I don’t think the Torres have any master plan to balance the books. They make up things as they go along, any strategy is likely only for the next one week. At the moment, as long as they can borrow or print money, they are coming up with bizarre ideas to spend it.

Paying back government debt is never a short term goal, it’s always a problem for the next government that comes in.

[Whorty]

It has always been the same, it will not change because of current circumstances. Wheathet it is taxes or rent extraction. Just a more elaborate plot to distract the young.

As for me, I’d be fine, I’d rather have just enough doing my own thing instead of slaving away to old farts like you in the same old corporate chain.

For you it is too late I am afraid, you do not know any other way...

The older I get the more I understand it is all about freedom. It comes in different forms of shapes but not how the corporate world has brainwashed you friend.

You really have no idea about businesses do you?

If working 2 days a week and having the ability to retire at 50 is too late for me to learn anything new then, you know what fella, I''l take that Vs your attitude.

Us old farts have grafted hard over the years to get where we are; you, however, seem to want it handed to you on a plate but when it isn't you blame others for your failures. Problem for you is, there are plenty of your peers who are willing to work hard and you're competing against these. Change your attitude mate or forever be angry and a loser - the power is in your hands only.

[Old Greg]

This is a global crisis and if countries acted together to put a tax on the assets of the richest 0.01% of the world population, that would help matters. Treat non-payment as tax evasion and put out Interpol warrants for tax evaders.

[DoctorStrangelove]

Yeah totally, and all his predecessors were totally different sort.

Yes, to a large extent they were.

[AtW]

The chancellor is a creature from Goldman Sachs. Whatever happens, it will be to enrich his masters and will have nothing to do with fairness, law or what is best for the nation.

Yeah totally, and all his predecessors were totally different sort.

[TwoWolves]

The chancellor is a creature from Goldman Sachs. Whatever happens, it will be to enrich his masters and will have nothing to do with fairness, law or what is best for the nation.

[GigiBronz]

You need to read the article again ... it says the younger generation have been paying taxes on their income, but to do this you need a job. You're Ok fella

It has always been the same, it will not change because of current circumstances. Wheathet it is taxes or rent extraction. Just a more elaborate plot to distract the young.

As for me, I’d be fine, I’d rather have just enough doing my own thing instead of slaving away to old farts like you in the same old corporate chain.

For you it is too late I am afraid, you do not know any other way...

The older I get the more I understand it is all about freedom. It comes in different forms of shapes but not how the corporate world has brainwashed you friend.