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Previously on "Stay at home - save the NHS"

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  • NigelJK
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    They have also shut down private hospitals due to the way that it has been financed, ensuring that the NHS will not 'catch up' on elective surgery for about 3 years.

    These are real people, some with excruciating pain, that have now been waiting for 4 months for their surgery.

    I personally would not want to be one of the 10,000 or so Cancer patients that have been diagnosed but are still awaiting treatment.

    I still don't believe the figures that the modelling team came up with prior to lock down and given the teams history with over estimating CJD by 2 orders of magnitude I think I'm justified.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    Given the demographics I think lockdown was a bad idea, and shutting down the NHS worse. We now have over 40,000 people waiting for tests for breast cancer alone.
    Hard to say what that number would be if there had not a shutdown of parts of the NHS. The services wouldn't have carried on as normal once there were serial outbreaks in elective NHS service settings.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    Given the demographics I think lockdown was a bad idea, and shutting down the NHS worse. We now have over 40,000 people waiting for tests for breast cancer alone.

    Shutting the NHS was to avoid pictures like those shown in Italy. It wasn't to save lives otherwise they would have admitted younger people with serious Covid symptoms before they started doing so after BJ got seriously ill.

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  • NigelJK
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    Given the demographics I think lockdown was a bad idea, and shutting down the NHS worse. We now have over 40,000 people waiting for tests for breast cancer alone.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    Shouldn't NHS be saving us not the other way around?

    It seems like that's defeating its purpose...
    FOG

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    Shouldn't NHS be saving us not the other way around?

    It seems like that's defeating its purpose...
    Nhs saves those who help save themselves, plus people who don’t

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  • elsergiovolador
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    Shouldn't NHS be saving us not the other way around?

    It seems like that's defeating its purpose...

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by BlueSharp View Post
    Remember the noise about not locking down fast enough?

    Well this is the result of all that screaming and whaling about the nasty Tories instead of a balanced debate. Not a chance will they want to appear slow to lockdown for the deaths coming over the winter. I cant wait for the covid AND flu graphs of death.
    Erm, now they won’t do a lockdown until it’s too late as well

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  • BlueSharp
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    But if they go on *foreign* holidays they are more likely to bring in the virus, just before autumn, and that could keep the economy shutdown for longer or even if not shutdown people will just be afraid to go out despite Boris saying it’s ok.

    It’s short term and totally counter productive - who really does the quarantines? The only useful purpose quarantine gives is reduction in demand
    Remember the noise about not locking down fast enough?

    Well this is the result of all that screaming and whaling about the nasty Tories instead of a balanced debate. Not a chance will they want to appear slow to lockdown for the deaths coming over the winter. I cant wait for the covid AND flu graphs of death.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    But if they go on *foreign* holidays they are more likely to bring in the virus, just before autumn, and that could keep the economy shutdown for longer or even if not shutdown people will just be afraid to go out despite Boris saying it’s ok.

    It’s short term and totally counter productive - who really does the quarantines? The only useful purpose quarantine gives is reduction in demand
    Going on holiday to countries that had lower Covid levels until the Brits turned up....

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    The travel and tourism industry employs a lot of people. So people need to go on holiday to keep these people in jobs.
    But if they go on *foreign* holidays they are more likely to bring in the virus, just before autumn, and that could keep the economy shutdown for longer or even if not shutdown people will just be afraid to go out despite Boris saying it’s ok.

    It’s short term and totally counter productive - who really does the quarantines? The only useful purpose quarantine gives is reduction in demand

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  • xoggoth
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    Think I'll book a holiday on Rockall.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BlueSharp View Post
    People knew the risks before they booked. Sorry but zero sympathies.
    The travel and tourism industry employs a lot of people. So people need to go on holiday to keep these people in jobs.

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  • BlueSharp
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    People knew the risks before they booked. Sorry but zero sympathies.

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  • SueEllen
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    tulipshow

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