Reply to: Transport Secretary Grant Shapps flew out on holiday yesterday morning

[Zigenare]

Simple solution to your confused shambles about the UK...
Don't travel to Manchester.

Piss off, I'm tweaking Old Smeg's tail.

[WTFH]

Typical Irish shambles.

Travel to Ireland from Manchester - Quarantine.

Travel to Ireland from Norn Irn - No Quarantine.

Travel to Norn Irn from Manchester - No Quarantine.

Travel To Ireland from Manchester via Norn Irn - No Quarantine.

Simple solution to your confused shambles about the UK...
Don't travel to Manchester.

[Zigenare]

Typical UK gov shambles.

Irish public sector employees have been told that they have to take 2 weeks' leave when returning from overseas. No WFH.

Typical Irish shambles.

Travel to Ireland from Manchester - Quarantine.

Travel to Ireland from Norn Irn - No Quarantine.

Travel to Norn Irn from Manchester - No Quarantine.

Travel To Ireland from Manchester via Norn Irn - No Quarantine.

[AtW]

And you think you're going to get a 100% uptake of people arriving back at Luton, checking into the local Travelodge for 2 weeks at their own expense voluntarily? You are completely mad. .

I expect them not to travel on holiday - accommodation costs can be charged in advance in a form of higher passenger duty on flights coming into UK, that on its own should cut down the problem

[Mordac]

People who travel, obviously.

Should be cheap rates at Thistle Heathrow at the moment

And you think you're going to get a 100% uptake of people arriving back at Luton, checking into the local Travelodge for 2 weeks at their own expense voluntarily? You are completely mad.

Anyway, The Thistle Heathrow went bust. One bad review was all it took...

[AtW]

Who pays for all that? Travel insurance? Best of luck, nobody has ever successfully claimed on a travel insurance policy*. And in a pandemic? No chance.

People who travel, obviously.

Should be cheap rates at Thistle Heathrow at the moment

[Mordac]

Is Spain worse than the US?

Are the Spanish islands bad?

Is it worse now than it was when Spain first went into lockdown and we let all Spanish visitors into the UK without quarantine?

I'm not saying that we shouldn't restrict travel to the worst parts of Spain, but treating the Canaries like the mainland seems odd. And not treating the US like mainland Spain is also at odds with the Tory quarantine policy.

Just saying .... but politics is still at the heart of these decisions and not just health and safety

Nobody in their right mind is going to the US, surely?

[AtW]

Is Spain worse than the US?

How many UK residents going to US now on holiday vs Spain?

Quarantine should be from both locations

[Mordac]

Infections in Spain are exploding - it’s crazy people are even allowed to go there for non-life critical stuff.

It’s 6 months into this tulip and there are still no designated hotels for ALL arrivals to quarantine

Who pays for all that? Travel insurance? Best of luck, nobody has ever successfully claimed on a travel insurance policy*. And in a pandemic? No chance.

*Nobody I've ever met, anyway. I still have an annual policy out of fear, but in reality I know that's £135 a year down the drain.

[Mordac]

Numpty government

One man from Liverpool who flew back to the UK today said a region-specific approach should have been adopted with the Spanish quarantine measures.
James Sloan, 34, said his family-of-five had been on holiday in Mojacar, more than 400 miles from the nearest Covid-19 outbreak in Barcelona.
He told the PA news agency: “When we flew out to Spain 10 days ago from Manchester there was an outbreak in Leicester, 100 miles away, but that wasn’t seen to be a problem.
“So why is it a problem when our nearest outbreak was 400 miles away from us in Spain?”


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That might have worked very well, were it not for Ryanair, who will frequently fly you to an airport in a different region, or even country, from the destination you had booked (e.g. Bilbao, as my wife found recently). In airport terms, Southend counts as London. In cultural terms, and almost every other measurable metric, it barely counts as Planet Earth.

[Whorty]

Infections in Spain are exploding - it’s crazy people are even allowed to go there for non-life critical stuff.

It’s 6 months into this tulip and there are still no designated hotels for ALL arrivals to quarantine

Is Spain worse than the US?

Are the Spanish islands bad?

Is it worse now than it was when Spain first went into lockdown and we let all Spanish visitors into the UK without quarantine?

I'm not saying that we shouldn't restrict travel to the worst parts of Spain, but treating the Canaries like the mainland seems odd. And not treating the US like mainland Spain is also at odds with the Tory quarantine policy.

Just saying .... but politics is still at the heart of these decisions and not just health and safety

[darmstadt]

Numpty government

One man from Liverpool who flew back to the UK today said a region-specific approach should have been adopted with the Spanish quarantine measures.
James Sloan, 34, said his family-of-five had been on holiday in Mojacar, more than 400 miles from the nearest Covid-19 outbreak in Barcelona.
He told the PA news agency: “When we flew out to Spain 10 days ago from Manchester there was an outbreak in Leicester, 100 miles away, but that wasn’t seen to be a problem.
“So why is it a problem when our nearest outbreak was 400 miles away from us in Spain?”


Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon

[AtW]

Infections in Spain are exploding - it’s crazy people are even allowed to go there for non-life critical stuff.

It’s 6 months into this tulip and there are still no designated hotels for ALL arrivals to quarantine

[Whorty]

The cynic in me is wondering if this is the Tories having a bit of a tantrum because the EU negotiators won't give them their cake and let hem eat it. Spain was much worse earlier in the pandemic and yet now this shower think we should be locking down all travelers from Spain (even the islands where the infection rate is well below the UK rate).

[minestrone]

TMI

And I wouldn't give a tulip if someone could cut his internet connection off repeatedly for 14 days.

I'm the better looking one...



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