UK number 1 at saving the world.

[WTFH]

...But as I say hindsight is always 20/20)

Sure, and ignoring scientists because they aren’t political enough? It doesn’t take hindsight, it just requires people to take their heads out of their hinds and see the shambles. But first you have to acknowledge that maybe god Dominic and saint Boris might not be as perfect as you’ve been indoctrinated to believe.

[original PM]

Wonder how many of those that died from CV went to the pub regularly?

(Yes I know they could have got it from family members who did..

But then maybe just a little bit of self isolation for the vulnerable may have had the same effect....

But as I say hindsight is always 20/20)

[Excursion UK]

That was on the 12th March and lockdown wasn't until 23rd March although Hancock will say it was the 16th March

The Friday of that week was the last night the pubs were open and that was the start of lockdown as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: Ok, gig was week before - but the point remains the same. Nobody had been scared senseless by govt propaganda at that point.

[darmstadt]

I was at a packed SLF gig in Bristol the week lockdown was introduced.

Nobody gave a stuff - inluding frontman Jake Burns who greeted the crowd with "Good evening Bristol, hope you've washed your hands" before launching into Suspect Device.

How cowed we've since become.

That was on the 12th March and lockdown wasn't until 23rd March although Hancock will say it was the 16th March

[Excursion UK]

It was clear before the fact that Cheltenham and other mass gatherings should be cancelled. It was clear that people shouldn't be shaking hands when Johnson was promoting it.

I was at a packed SLF gig in Bristol the week lockdown was introduced.

Nobody gave a stuff - inluding frontman Jake Burns who greeted the crowd with "Good evening Bristol, hope you've washed your hands" before launching into Suspect Device.

How cowed we've since become.

[Old Greg]

And it's really easy to sit and pontificate what you would have done better had you been in charge after the fact isn't it?

But you weren't so deal with it.

[emoji849]

It was clear before the fact that Cheltenham and other mass gatherings should be cancelled. It was clear that people shouldn't be shaking hands when Johnson was promoting it.

[original PM]

Not everybody would agree with you on that.
Whole of Government Response to COVID-19 - Committee of Public Accounts - House of Commons

And it's really easy to sit and pontificate what you would have done better had you been in charge after the fact isn't it?

But you weren't so deal with it.

[emoji849]

[DaveB]

Not everybody would agree with you on that.
Whole of Government Response to COVID-19 - Committee of Public Accounts - House of Commons

The UK government has mobilised a wide-ranging response to the COVID-19 pandemic, with initiatives worth over £120 billion so far to support the health and social care sector, businesses and individuals through the crisis. We give the UK Government credit for moving fast to deliver this. However, we are astonished to have heard in evidence that, despite a pandemic having been one of the government’s top risks for years, it failed to consider specifically in advance how it might deal with the economic impacts of a national disease outbreak. HM Treasury (the Treasury) waited until mid-March before designing the economic support schemes it would put in place, creating initial uncertainty for many businesses and individuals.

We would have expected the Cabinet Office and the Treasury to have a better grip of the overall government response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Government co-ordination and decision making is having major and long-lasting impacts on people’s lives. For example, there will need to be concerted efforts to ensure that the lengthy school closures do not have long-term or irreversible effects on children and young people’s future health and education. School closures were predicted in pandemic planning, yet there seems to have been no plan or support for how schools and pupils would be supported to continue to learn.

Government emphasised that it never ran out of central PPE supplies. However, it acknowledged that there were daily examples of local shortages. Procurement and delivery of PPE is vital in a pandemic and we will consider this in a separate report.

Central government has not given local authorities the clarity or support they need over long-term funding. As we have previously seen with Brexit, the government’s initial approach to supporting businesses in order to speed up the response has been one-size-fits-all, leaving sectors of the economy without the bespoke support they need. We are concerned that the government should learn the lessons from its cross-government response to the COVID-19 pandemic and undertake the necessary preparatory work to ensure it doesn’t make similar mistakes again in the event of a second spike in infections or novel pandemic outbreak. Overall there has been unclear planning and advice for lifting lockdown in a number of sectors. We recognise that decisions are not easy and that the trajectory of the pandemic within the population is not in the Government’s control, but there are many lessons from this first phase of the pandemic that the Government must learn. Government decisions have an impact on how the spread of infection is controlled.

[Hobosapien]

Aye, world class, in a world where the class is full of dunces.

[Paddy]

[woohoo]

Credit where credit is due. As a country our innovative nature is leading us once again to save the world.

[Paddy]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...en-world-class

Stop your moaning, UK is saving the world.

The successes is not due to government policy but are despite government policy and incompetence.

[WTFH]

On the measure of things, the gov has handled it terribly. Having said that, the differences in measuring mortality across countries make that headline figure pretty useless.

A mistake now would be to conflate the UK's world class biotech and universities with its government.

Don't worry about that, we already have posters who think the government is world class and the universities are terrible, full of left wing ideologies, such as the Bullingdon Club and other Marxist organisations.

[TheGreenBastard]

On the measure of things, the gov has handled it terribly. Having said that, the differences in measuring mortality across countries make that headline figure pretty useless.

A mistake now would be to conflate the UK's world class biotech and universities with its government.

[woohoo]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...en-world-class

Stop your moaning, UK is saving the world.