Reply to: Government strategy

[AtW]

I was going to say the fine will probably be less than the cost of the masks, but on Amazon it is still possible to buy 50 disposables for a little over £25. 50 masks will probably last us about a fortnight. I don't expect the price to stay there for very long.

Not if MF gets interested...

[Mordac]

Better mask up your avatar - there will be plenty of bans cometh 24th

I was going to say the fine will probably be less than the cost of the masks, but on Amazon it is still possible to buy 50 disposables for a little over £25. 50 masks will probably last us about a fortnight. I don't expect the price to stay there for very long.

[AtW]

And just for the record, I now know how Scooty feels every single day...

Better mask up your avatar - there will be plenty of bans cometh 24th

[Mordac]

Because it hasn't been enacted into law. This will probably come as a shock to you, knowing only Stalinism as you do, but we have laws which require an Act of Parliament, not some Johnny Hitler with a clipboard.
The police can't enforce a law which doesn't exist (they wouldn't bother even if it did), and I doubt many shopkeepers would refuse entry to anyone likely to respond with a Glasgow kiss. So it will all become discretionary, those of us who consider ourselves civilised will wear them, the chav masses won't.

And just for the record, I now know how Scooty feels every single day...

[Old Greg]

I know, I had to dumb down for him and forgot to add the bit about the difference between a policy (as he meant it) and a guideline. Twenty on the naughty step for me, OK with you?

Just please never change.

[Mordac]

Classic.

I know, I had to dumb down for him and forgot to add the bit about the difference between a policy (as he meant it) and a guideline. Twenty on the naughty step for me, OK with you?

[darmstadt]

I take it that government strategy is follow other countries, Germany got all their flu vaccines in a couple of months ago (and people on here were taking the mick):

The government is preparing to roll out the “biggest flu vaccination programme in history”, according to Matt Hancock.The health secretary said planning was under way for an expected surge in demand on the NHS due to seasonal pressures, such as flu cases, over winter.


Speaking at a National Pharmacy Association (NPA) virtual conference on Monday, Hancock said that following the coronavirus pandemic, he was expecting high demand for flu jabs over winter.

He added that although enough vaccine had been procured for the programme, it would be a “big task”.

“We all know that having had an incredibly hard six months the next big moment is as winter approaches,” he said. “We are currently planning in detail for winter. We are expecting high demand.


Earlier this month, Downing Street said ministers were trying to secure a “significant additional supply” of vaccines so the uptake in “at-risk” groups could be increased and more people could be made eligible for a free injection.

Hancock said the Government was also working on a coronavirus vaccination programme, should a successful vaccine be found.


“We are working hard on a combination of the Covid vaccination programme, should a vaccination work, and of course the biggest flu vaccination programme in history,” he said.

“We are working now on how a Covid vaccine roll-out would work.”

[d000hg]

No chance. If people have started ignoring the queuing and distancing protocols, no-one is going to risk violence or worse trying to police the wearing of masks (e.g. this chap: Coronavirus: French bus driver dies after attack by passengers who refused to wear face masks | World News | Sky News)

There's a big difference between people nipping the wrong way down an aisle - very hard to police - and a blanket refusal to serve anyone not wearing a mask. You could probably most easily police this with people on the door... plenty of bouncers out of work right now.

[AtW]

I doubt many shopkeepers would refuse entry to anyone likely to respond with a Glasgow kiss.

Seems to work fine in Scotland, which includes Glasgow.

"People must - by law - wear a face covering in retail environments and on public transport and public transport premises, such as airports, train and bus stations. This applies to open air train stations, but not to bus stops. "

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Phase 3: staying safe and protecting others - gov.scot

[Old Greg]

If it isn't lawfully enforceable, then it isn't policy.

Classic.

[AtW]

Because it hasn't been enacted into law.

Oh wow, and the Conservative Govt is lacking majority to pass laws quickly using CoronaVirus emergency legislation that allows them to do it real fooking fast?

Why is even a law required for it - WTF is wrong with this country and USA, just fooking wear a mask to stop this tulip sooner than later, how hard is it?

[Mordac]

Why would it not be lawfully enforceable?

It's basically lethal bioterrorism to refuse wear mask now when indoors with other members of public.

Because it hasn't been enacted into law. This will probably come as a shock to you, knowing only Stalinism as you do, but we have laws which require an Act of Parliament, not some Johnny Hitler with a clipboard.
The police can't enforce a law which doesn't exist (they wouldn't bother even if it did), and I doubt many shopkeepers would refuse entry to anyone likely to respond with a Glasgow kiss. So it will all become discretionary, those of us who consider ourselves civilised will wear them, the chav masses won't.

[AtW]

If it isn't lawfully enforceable, then it isn't policy.

Why would it not be lawfully enforceable?

It's basically lethal bioterrorism to refuse wear mask now when indoors with other members of public.

[Whorty]

It's almost as if they're *****, and anyone who supports them is a ****.

Almost?

[Mordac]

Oh wow, threat of violence from thugs and Govt policy should automatically fold

If it isn't lawfully enforceable, then it isn't policy.