Protest at lack of PPE

[rogerfederer]

I think most people find it dystopian that people are "sent to the frontline" to fight the virus - I mean, help patients as best they can, without the correct equipment.

The UK death toll doesn't look good in an international context, and that's with England&Wales not even counting covid19 deaths properly. This applies to doctors too. On immunosuppressants, have Crohn's disease, but die with Covid19? It's the Crohn's. Except they would have likely lived for decades with Crohn's disease and been just fine if they had the correct PPE.

The downgrading of the PPE standards to suit the fact limited PPE is available for various reasons merits an inquiry after this is over. Downgrading guidance just to suit stock limitations is, when it comes to the medical world, absolutely insane.

Scotland's NRS is spitting out the true covid19 deaths in Scotland and they are, daily, substantially higher than the UK basic method of counting the deaths.

[Old Greg]

Contrary to some cretins on here, the lack of PPE for medical professionals isn't restricted to the UK NHS. Who'd have thunk it eh ....

German doctors pose naked in protest at PPE shortages | World news | The Guardian

Who has said that lack of PPE for medical professionals is restricted to the UK NHS?

[Whorty]

Yes I know what you said.
On the basis of what evidence?
In actual fact I still have the "little cough" intermittently a month later and at its peak it meant being unable to sleep for 3 days, in constant pain from the doubling up.

No need to sign off your posts BTW, the whole congregation understands you're a cretin

Boo hoo you. I've had flu worse than this. In fact, I've had 3 chronic asthma attacks over recent years much worse than this. All whilst being a full time main carer for my disabled wife.

MTFU dude, you're fine, stop being a p*ssy.

[sasguru]

I said you had a little cough, not that covid-19 is a little cough. And you claim I struggle with logic. Cretin

Yes I know what you said.
On the basis of what evidence?
In actual fact I still have the "little cough" intermittently a month later and at its peak it meant being unable to sleep for 3 days, in constant pain from the doubling up.

No need to sign off your posts BTW, the whole congregation understands you're a cretin

[Whorty]

A little cough? And you call me a twunt? Much as you're a fool, I hope you don't get the "liittle cough".

I said you had a little cough, not that covid-19 is a little cough. And you claim I struggle with logic. Cretin

[BlasterBates]

The fact as that German hospitals are empty. Well prepared teams of epidemiologists are sitting around drinking coffee.

[sasguru]

Don't forget that this article is in fact about GPs and not hospital doctors so a slightly different view should be taken when reading the article. GPs here are not the same as an NHS GP but are, in most cases, private practices so the doctors tend to be self employed or running a business

Any protests from front line staff in Germany?
I would expect some shortage everywhere at this stage, even if the hard-of-thinking can't distinguish that from systematic failure.

[darmstadt]

Don't forget that this article is in fact about GPs and not hospital doctors so a slightly different view should be taken when reading the article. GPs here are not the same as an NHS GP but are, in most cases, private practices so the doctors tend to be self employed or running a business

[sasguru]

Ah, I see ..... when another country does something that you think the UK is not doing then they're right and we're wrong. But, when others are suffering the same problems as the UK, then the UK is still wrong.

You really struggle with basic logic, don't you?

Likewise, I don't phone 111 when I have a little cough, and then claim I've had covid-19 when looking for attention and sympathy from forum members who think I'm a twunt

A little cough? And you call me a twunt? Much as you're a fool, I hope you don't get the "liittle cough".

[Whorty]

Ignoratio Elenchi.

Another logically flawed argument. The fact that Germany (and in fact many other countries) have a PPE shortage, does not negate the fact that egregious errors in PPE stockpiling and distribution were made in the UK.

This is not just semantics. Given what we know about the viral load front-line staff are exposed to and therefore the increased risk of severe Covid they face, any errors by the government should be exposed rather than covered up.

Or perhaps you'd just rather clap one day a week.

Ah, I see ..... when another country does something that you think the UK is not doing then they're right and we're wrong. But, when others are suffering the same problems as the UK, then the UK is still wrong. Seems no matter what the story, you try to spin it so that the UK is wrong. You have a real chip on your shoulder that you no longer live in the UK

Tell you what fella, why not just fook off to whatever country you claim to live in now and let the rest of us enjoy our lovely country

And, for the record, I don't clap on Thursdays. I'm not part of the facebook world where I have to video myself trying to get my fookin 15 minutes of fame and showing the world how worthy I am.

Likewise, I don't phone 111 when I have a little cough, and then claim I've had covid-19 when looking for attention and sympathy from forum members who think I'm a twunt

[sasguru]

Contrary to some cretins on here, the lack of PPE for medical professionals isn't restricted to the UK NHS. Who'd have thunk it eh ....

German doctors pose naked in protest at PPE shortages | World news | The Guardian

Ignoratio Elenchi.

Another logically flawed argument. The fact that Germany (and in fact many other countries) have a PPE shortage, does not negate the fact that egregious errors in PPE stockpiling and distribution were made in the UK.

This is not just semantics. Given what we know about the viral load front-line staff are exposed to and therefore the increased risk of severe Covid they face, any errors by the government should be exposed rather than covered up.

Or perhaps you'd just rather clap one day a week.

[darmstadt]

KUATB: https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...-shortage.html

[Whorty]

Contrary to some cretins on here, the lack of PPE for medical professionals isn't restricted to the UK NHS. Who'd have thunk it eh ....

German doctors pose naked in protest at PPE shortages | World news | The Guardian