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Previously on "When lockdown is lifted is anyone planning to return to the office?"

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
    judgement... finance is about incentivising people to work. mortgages, credit cards, student loans and most of the innovations in the sector have been designed to trick people into over-consumption.
    How could you keep control of the population when you allow them to move everywhere on the globe?

    If even 20% of the roles in IT would be remote people will relocate to Spain those people will work poolside on sangria in a house 1/3 of the price in UK that they will pay off in 5y then work another 8 and retire with a big f u to the establishment. That would not be allowed.

    It will create also a deep feeling of injustice and envy in the soul of the mortals still doing the 9-5 grind in the cubicle paradise.

    It is in the same way as contracting has been taken out because it opposed a thread culturally to the mainstream culture - permidom.

    Call me paranoid but none of than would not be allowed to happen.
    Ah, so it's your paranoia that is convincing you about remote working not surviving post covid. Does this mean all the Tata/Cognizant/Wipros of this world will shut up shop as well?
    As for a UK citizen moving to Spain, they've got 3 weeks left to do it without a degree of pain and effort.

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  • GigiBronz
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Based on what evidence?
    judgement... finance is about incentivising people to work. mortgages, credit cards, student loans and most of the innovations in the sector have been designed to trick people into over-consumption.
    How could you keep control of the population when you allow them to move everywhere on the globe?

    If even 20% of the roles in IT would be remote people will relocate to Spain those people will work poolside on sangria in a house 1/3 of the price in UK that they will pay off in 5y then work another 8 and retire with a big f u to the establishment. That would not be allowed.

    It will create also a deep feeling of injustice and envy in the soul of the mortals still doing the 9-5 grind in the cubicle paradise.

    It is in the same way as contracting has been taken out because it opposed a thread culturally to the mainstream culture - permidom.

    Call me paranoid but none of than would not be allowed to happen.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    As long as they're still paying me then!
    I doubt it's a sum they notice.

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  • Zigenare
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    Where's the AndyW option?

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by Destiny2 View Post
    I miss the banter and the City street food market lunches.
    Lunch options are always better when someone else is doing the cooking. Or is that just me cos I'm crap at cooking?

    Having WFH a lot pre-Covid, my main issue has always been that I don't get out enough when I'm at home. When in an office, I will make time to leave the desk and go for a lunch time walk and, if travelling by public transport, I will get off one or two stops earlier to make it a decent walk home. That worked wonders for keeping the lard off.

    At home, I know I should go for a walk at the top and tail of the day in a kind of 'fake commute' and I should get my arse off the chair at lunchtime, or at some point in the day at least. I just never bother.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Destiny2 View Post
    I miss the banter and the City street food market lunches.

    I miss the peace and quiet of my wife going to her office and me working from mine ... at home.

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  • Destiny2
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    I miss the banter and the City street food market lunches.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
    I think most of the people would be back onsite when this is gone.
    workforce is about many things and I don't think that the establishment considers wfh an acceptable, manageable solution.

    Based on what evidence?

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  • GigiBronz
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    That's what they tell you. They've all been back in the office for months.
    with the odd exception I think most of the people would be back onsite when this is gone.
    workforce is about many things and I don't think that the establishment considers wfh an acceptable, manageable solution.

    they've probably played along to keep a positive hype but it won't be long lived.

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  • psychocandy
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    That's what they tell you. They've all been back in the office for months.
    As long as they're still paying me then!

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
    Be nice to go back 1 or 2 days a week.....

    I fear it won't happen. Client is public sector and massively scared of everything. And they've been on about selling or renting out part of the building (which is in prime location) for years.....
    That's what they tell you. They've all been back in the office for months.

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  • psychocandy
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    Be nice to go back 1 or 2 days a week.....

    I fear it won't happen. Client is public sector and massively scared of everything. And they've been on about selling or renting out part of the building (which is in prime location) for years.....

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    The risk of being an asymptomatic carrier. It's not all about you you know.
    You are a carrier of stupidity. But not asymptomatic.

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  • jayn200
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    Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
    Anyone still in doubt that the recent PM message is a premature push to get people back to work?
    Although message is vague it is still clear enough that those who cannot work from home should go back to work.
    Should this entitle any corporate stooge that manages people to claim "this is not a remote role" and invite everyone on site despite the fact that the role could be arguably done either way?
    I would guess so...

    Same old same old.

    Enjoy!
    I don't think it's premature. You can only afford to pay a quarter of the UK salaries for so long. Have to get more of the workforce back to work and need to get the economy restarted a bit, at least as much as possible.

    I can't see how anyone could interpret this to mean office workers should be going back. You can't really argue that someone that is currently working from home meets the standard of "those who cannot work from home" since they are already working from home. An employer or client can't use this current advice as justification for bringing someone remote back on site.

    Some of the office workers that are furloughed might have to go back to their offices of course thats a different situation but one that doesn't impact us contractors. As far as implications for contract roles, you choose how you want your business to be run. You don't have to provide on-site services and the client doesn't have to purchase services from you. Both of you have free will to operate how you want.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    So many issues with that...
    1. Too few hulls, so you can't get in to the shallow bays, you don't go as fast, and your rum slides off the table when you unfurl the spinnaker.
    2. No barbecue, no rear shower (or if there is, it's too close to the wheel)
    3. Cabin windows look frosted
    4. No fenders
    5. Far too heavily photoshopped.

    I was just going to say the bikini suited him!

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