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Previously on "UK is now a much more a green land"

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  • JohntheBike
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    Originally posted by wattaj View Post
    It is possible to check if one is so inclined: ArcGIS Web Application

    Or, perhaps it just became too expensive to maintain and was left untended by the owner.
    I knew the previous owner who leased one small part of the land for animals, and the current owner, who until fairly recently didn't maintain any of the land. He now just maintains a very small parcel of the land, which is on the flat and the remainder is left unattended. The trees have grow noticeably on the flat portion and the steeply sloped portion doesn't seem to have overgrown significantly. I guess this is because it's predominantly covered in gorse, which seems to strangle everything else.

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  • wattaj
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    Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
    the area in question at the rear of my home is rough ground and wouldn't have attracted any planting incentives. It's mostly gorse and deciduous trees. It drops steeply to the canal and river and I would say that the growth of trees is entirely natural. But the fact is that until about 1974, there was little or no growth, which seems to have exploded since then.
    It is possible to check if one is so inclined: ArcGIS Web Application

    Or, perhaps it just became too expensive to maintain and was left untended by the owner.

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  • JohntheBike
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    Originally posted by wattaj View Post
    No. Much more likely is a change in the funding available to landowners for planting. The FC manages these schemes on behalf of Government.

    HTH.

    Yours ex-FC(Scotland) contractor.
    the area in question at the rear of my home is rough ground and wouldn't have attracted any planting incentives. It's mostly gorse and deciduous trees. It drops steeply to the canal and river and I would say that the growth of trees is entirely natural. But the fact is that until about 1974, there was little or no growth, which seems to have exploded since then.

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  • wattaj
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    Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
    I think there are many other issues at play other than the Forestry Commission. The house that I live in was built by my father-in-law in 1934. I've lived in it since 1970. There are photographs taken when the house was built of the area behind the house and there are no trees visible. Fast forward to 1974 and the view is much the same, with just a hint of a few bushes. Fast forward to 2014 and trees have grown to heights of 50+ ft and bushes have multiplied everywhere. So why in the millennia up to 1974 did no trees grow, whilst since 1974 there has been an explosion of growth? Could this be another sign of global warming?
    No. Much more likely is a change in the funding available to landowners for planting. The FC manages these schemes on behalf of Government.

    HTH.

    Yours ex-FC(Scotland) contractor.

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  • JohntheBike
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    100 years of state forestry in the UK

    In September 1919, the Forestry Commission was established.

    Fast forward 100 years and woodland cover has more than doubled, with over 10% of England and 6% of Wales now covered by trees.

    I think there are many other issues at play other than the Forestry Commission. The house that I live in was built by my father-in-law in 1934. I've lived in it since 1970. There are photographs taken when the house was built of the area behind the house and there are no trees visible. Fast forward to 1974 and the view is much the same, with just a hint of a few bushes. Fast forward to 2014 and trees have grown to heights of 50+ ft and bushes have multiplied everywhere. So why in the millennia up to 1974 did no trees grow, whilst since 1974 there has been an explosion of growth? Could this be another sign of global warming?

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  • downefif
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    What do the locals say? If they agree that there are now more green spaces, then this is very nice!



    I am trying to figure out how many payday loans I can take out at once. I have a good salary but I need to pay several hefty medical bills for my parents. I know I can pay them off with no major problems in a month or two. Can someone help me understand if I can get approved for two loans? Click to investigate, they get a whole deal cryptic here or is it just me lol.
    Last edited by downefif; 4 February 2020, 09:30. Reason: error correction

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Presumably, the majority of people wanting to own 2, 3, 4 + houses would want to rent them out, so available stock. Divorce is at it's lowest in 40 years.

    As you said many reason for the demand, still the demand is ruining many green areas.
    There's a lot of people with holiday homes - they might not be renting them out (or not renting them out full time)

    You also have the investors who are buying property and leaving it empty - there's over 20,000 empty houses in London, and about 10x that in the rest of the country

    Empty homes in the UK: the true picture

    Action on Empty Homes

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  • woohoo
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Yes, the number of people who want to own 2,3,4+ houses, and then there's the break up of marriages, and old folk not wanting to die or go into care, or give their house to their children.

    Multiple reasons... And that's before we get to the basis of the UK economy - cheap labour brought in to do jobs and pay taxes to keep the economy afloat.
    Presumably, the majority of people wanting to own 2, 3, 4 + houses would want to rent them out, so available stock. Divorce is at it's lowest in 40 years.

    As you said many reason for the demand, still the demand is ruining many green areas.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    For a country that has declining births we need a surprising amount of new homes at any cost.

    Yes, the number of people who want to own 2,3,4+ houses, and then there's the break up of marriages, and old folk not wanting to die or go into care, or give their house to their children.

    Multiple reasons... And that's before we get to the basis of the UK economy - cheap labour brought in to do jobs and pay taxes to keep the economy afloat.

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  • JohntheBike
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Have to agree with this. Where I live much of the green space is up for review to build houses on, locals fighting it etc. For a country that has declining births we need a surprising amount of new homes at any cost.
    For a country that has declining births we need a surprising amount of new homes at any cost.

    see here -

    uk population growth since 1972 - Google Search

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  • woohoo
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    Originally posted by TwoWolves View Post
    Misleading stats.

    More pasture has become forestry but unfortunately far more pasture has become urban sprawl.
    Have to agree with this. Where I live much of the green space is up for review to build houses on, locals fighting it etc. For a country that has declining births we need a surprising amount of new homes at any cost.

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  • Eirikur
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    Still very much in the bottom quarter of countries and regions, percentage wise, together with desert and polar areas

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  • WTFH
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    If it wasn't for the forestry commission, there'd be bikes half buried in fields round here.

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  • DoctorStrangelove
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    Aye, pity the demand for pit props seems to have disappeared.

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  • TwoWolves
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    Misleading stats.

    More pasture has become forestry but unfortunately far more pasture has become urban sprawl.

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