Reply to: Boycott Cyprus?

[wattaj]

Not really. It's a business transaction in the world's oldest industry.

See my post above. It is the world's oldest form of abuse.

[wattaj]

No-one forces you to work though. Prostitutes do get a choice.

Er, no. Prostitution, generally, draws in those who are the most marginalised in our society. Modern "progressives" would have us believe that "sex work is real work"; it is not, it is exploitation framed as a business transaction by a morally dysfunctional patriarchy.

[BrilloPad]

If it wasn't for the money, I wouldn't do it.

No-one forces you to work though. Prostitutes do get a choice.

[NotAllThere]

Are you paid for turning up at work?

Yes

Is it connsesual?

No. I feel violated. If it wasn't for the money, I wouldn't do it.

[LondonManc]

Consensual in that the women were paid to be there?

That's a rather odd interpretation of "consensual".

Not really. It's a business transaction in the world's oldest industry.

[vetran]

Some guy: Here is a video of her having sex with several men.
Lawyer: That is not what that video shows.

Media: Her lawyer was highly critical of the video which allegedly shows her having sex with these men.

No if it was of her with other men he would no doubt of pointed out her previous sexual adventures are not relevant.

If it was not of her he would have described it as fake.

It seems he has seen it (the Police have it) and it is of her with multiple defendants.

He wanted the person 'leaking' (so that suggests publishing details about the case not just revenge porn) questioned. Lawyers are extremely careful with their words!

its all very sad but its difficult to take a side without in depth knowledge.

I bet the lads are glad they videoed it now which is rather ironic.

[vetran]

Very selective quoting from a sister paper to the Fail. He is not even her lawyer....

not selective quoting at all but to remove doubt

Her lawyer Andreas Pittadjis said a judge granted his request for an eight-day adjournment until August 7 so that he and his client could review all the evidence that police investigators have amassed in the case.Mr Pittadjis was highly critical of leaked video footage allegedly showing his client having sex with several of the men.

just to provide another source
Ayia Napa: Video leak condemned after Briton'''s '''false rape claim'''

The 19-year-old woman's lawyer said they needed more time to study the police evidence and criticised the leak of video footage allegedly showing his client having sex with the Israelis.Andreas Pittadjis called the leak a "much more serious criminal offence" than the charge his client faces.
He added: "It begs the question, who leaked those videos and why have they not been questioned yet."
Mr Pittadjis said a judge granted his request for the adjournment until 7 August and added the woman would "most likely" enter a plea at her next appearance but did not indicate how she would plead.
The woman faces a public nuisance charge after claiming she was raped by 12 Israelis at a hotel in Ayia Napa, Cyprus.
The charge carries a maximum sentence of a year in prison and a €1,700 (£1,558) fine.
Police freed all 12 suspects after the woman allegedly recanted her rape allegations during police questioning.
She admitted there had been sexual contact with the suspects but said she was not raped.
Lawyers representing the Israelis, who are between the ages of 15 and 18, said they planned to sue after the allegations were retracted.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if on the night the whole situation got out of hand Booze + Lust are a nasty combination and she said no then. Its just it seems almost impossible to prosecute successfully because there is so little certainty. It does seem she is proven to be into group sex in a country with fairly reserved morals.

This isn't just she said / he said its she said/He,he,he...........he/said and has scandalous videos proving it happened before.

[MyUserName]

not according to her lawyer

Mr Pittadjis was highly critical of leaked video footage allegedly showing his client having sex with several of the men.
He called the leak "a much more serious criminal offence" than the charge she faces.

Some guy: Here is a video of her having sex with several men.
Lawyer: That is not what that video shows.

Media: Her lawyer was highly critical of the video which allegedly shows her having sex with these men.

[BrilloPad]

Consensual in that the women were paid to be there?

That's a rather odd interpretation of "consensual".

Are you paid for turning up at work? Is it connsesual?

[wattaj]

At least Berlusconi's bunga bunga parties were consensual, irrespective of how tawdry they were!

Consensual in that the women were paid to be there?

That's a rather odd interpretation of "consensual".

[LondonManc]

They should be more embarrassed that because the perps have high level connections, and Cyprus wants a pipeline deal with Israel, that rape is effectively endorsed.

At least Berlusconi's bunga bunga parties were consensual, irrespective of how tawdry they were!

[BrilloPad]

Lucky Cyprus has the ECHR backing it up to ensure she's fairly treated. Gutted we're leaving this level of fair trial behind!

In all seriousness, I've got a Jewish friend (male) who grew up in north Manchester and now lives in Israel. It gets covered up over there too and he's flown over to Cyprus to join the protests. Sounds like a cultural embarrassment for them.

They should be more embarrassed that because the perps have high level connections, and Cyprus wants a pipeline deal with Israel, that rape is effectively endorsed.

[BrilloPad]

not according to her lawyer

Cyprus rape case explained: Timeline of events as teen set to return home | London Evening Standard




The Cypriot Police seem to have behaved very badly not letting her have legal representation during interview. But with the quotes below it does seem to be more sexual guilt than proven rape. The men involved are pretty shoddy though.

Very selective quoting from a sister paper to the Fail. He is not even her lawyer....

[LondonManc]

Lucky Cyprus has the ECHR backing it up to ensure she's fairly treated. Gutted we're leaving this level of fair trial behind!

In all seriousness, I've got a Jewish friend (male) who grew up in north Manchester and now lives in Israel. It gets covered up over there too and he's flown over to Cyprus to join the protests. Sounds like a cultural embarrassment for them.

[vetran]

There is alleged video evidence of her having consensual sex with a guy, not with all of them.
Is that what you are referring to?

not according to her lawyer

Cyprus rape case explained: Timeline of events as teen set to return home | London Evening Standard

Mr Pittadjis was highly critical of leaked video footage allegedly showing his client having sex with several of the men.
He called the leak "a much more serious criminal offence" than the charge she faces.

The Cypriot Police seem to have behaved very badly not letting her have legal representation during interview. But with the quotes below it does seem to be more sexual guilt than proven rape. The men involved are pretty shoddy though.

Her legal team say the group planned to have sex with the teenager and read a statement from an Israeli witness about the night she claims she was raped.
The Israelis' defence lawyers said the woman was working at the hotel, and that she was in a relationship with one Israeli and had consensual sexual contact with several others over a period of several days.

Judge Michalis Papathanasiou said in his verdict on Monday morning that the teenager did not tell the truth and tried to deceive the court with "convenient" and "evasive" statements."My conclusion is that the guilt of the accused has been proven beyond reasonable doubt," he said.
He said the defendant told investigators she made up the claims because she felt "ashamed" after finding out some of the Israelis had filmed her having sex on their mobile phones.