Reply to: The Official General Election Thread December 2019

[BrilloPad]

For us up here in the mountains it's a spectator sport. Let the water levels rise, we just need to learn and adapt.

Strongly agreed. And nothing will change that. The poor will be totally stuffed.

[scooterscot]

With climate change the planet is soon going to start getting revenge on humans. Unless the 90% turn on the 10% who consume 90% of the earth's resources.

For us up here in the mountains it's a spectator sport. Let the water levels rise, we just need to learn and adapt.

[BrilloPad]

Something about mortality.

With climate change the planet is soon going to start getting revenge on humans. Unless the 90% turn on the 10% who consume 90% of the earth's resources.

[scooterscot]

Scotland is divided from the rest of the UK. Way more people in bad health.

You're dead wrong actually. pun intended. Now stop reading the wail... the difference between England and Scottish mortality rates are a real eyeopener considering the prevailing stereotypes.

Mortality rates from Scotland's leading causes of death- including cancer, coronary heart disease (CHD), respiratory conditions and stroke- are declining long term following lifestyle improvements and improved health care.

Health of Scotland’s population - Mortality Rates



Scotland’s NHS outperforms the rest of the UK – here’s why

The past seven years of Conservative government has been one in which “the health service has endured the longest period of austerity in its 70-year history”. The most recent data from 2017 shows that Conservative governments since 2010 have introduced more severe austerity on health spending than any of their predecessors. In fact, health spending has seen its lowest increases since records began. The rate of increase in the number of doctors per 1,000 people has slowed dramatically and the number of nurses per 1,000 people has actually fallen since 2010.

So why Does Scotland outperform the rest of the UK?


Due to the way in which public spending is distributed across the UK, a budget is set for England and then that sets the budget for the devolved nations. Austerity from Westminster therefore reduces the available public spending to devolved governments. This negatively impacts on the public finances available for the Scottish Government.


However, Holyrood may have a set and limited budget but it doesn’t have to spend its budget in the same proportions as set for England by the Chancellor. The Scottish Government has therefore committed to providing the Scottish NHS with resources above the UK average, as well as providing additional services such as free prescriptions and eye tests. The data available for comparison demonstrates clearly that the Scottish NHS has been performing more effectively than any other UK national health service.


Firstly, let’s examine the differences in spending and resources across the different NHS organisations in the UK.

Meanwhile doon south...


Mortality rates are rising in the UK – and everyone is ignoring it

hen the UK’s annual mid-year population estimates were released in late June 2019, much of the media coverage focused on the fact that the population had risen, but growth rates had stalled. The Express newspaper reported that the total population rise of just under 400,000 in the year to mid-2018 was still fuelled by immigration, and that: “The surge is the equivalent of adding a city the size of Coventry to the country.”


But what reporting on this data missed was the 623,000 deaths in the year to mid-2018. This was 20,000 more than the previous year – a 3 per cent increase. That is startling because it continues a rise in mortality that began with the first significant fall in UK life expectancy in 2014 and means that UK life expectancy will still be lower today than it was then, five long years ago.




The mid-year population estimates also reveal by how much the population has aged, and that the rise in mortality is not due to ageing. As mortality rates for almost all age groups have risen, for both men and women, overall life expectancy will have fallen yet again.

Mortality rate in areas of northern England worse than parts of Romania

Ironic the cuts in NHS care in those constituents brought about by the Tories were supported in majority in the election. Now if that's not a sign of illness I don't know what is...

Blackpool, Manchester and Hull have a higher percentage of deaths each year than parts of Turkey, Slovakia and Romania according to the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) North.


In its State of the North 2019 report, the think tank says centralisation of power and a lack of regional independence, combined with low levels of local government spending has left the UK more socially divided than comparable nations like France or Germany in terms of health, jobs, disposable income and productivity.


It found that in Kensington and Chelsea and Hammersmith and Fulham, disposable income per person is £48,000 higher than in areas such as, Nottingham and Leicester.


The report added that while productivity in London and the South East was among the highest in the developed world, parts of Northern Ireland, Wales and the north of England are less productive than parts of Poland, Hungary and Romania.


It says only Romania and South Korea are more socially divided.

[BrilloPad]

If that were true society would benefit equally. Never has it been more divided.

Scotland is divided from the rest of the UK. Way more people in bad health.

[scooterscot]

Your cancer is spilling over the border.

[DimPrawn]

Looks like we have found a cure for the Red Cancer.

[scooterscot]

We ARE stronger together, .

If that were true society would benefit equally. Never has it been more divided.

[scooterscot]

Damn right.

Do you know on the last referendum for Scotland you had to presently live in Scotland to vote. My wife's entire family Glasweigian jocks, loads of them were pissed.

You should advise them to stop drinking.

[MarillionFan]

If Scotland want to leave the union then let the English vote!

Damn right.

Do you know on the last referendum for Scotland you had to presently live in Scotland to vote. My wife's entire family Glasweigian jocks, loads of them were pissed. They wanted the Union to stay but couldn't vote, but Jimmy Abdullah from Iraq was allowed to vote as he'd settled in Glasgow.

We ARE stronger together, and god we know we need the Scots in the SAS as they're a bunch of hard bastards, but this constant Sturgeon Scottish nationlism is draining! I'm tempted to send them on there way, sick to the back teeth of them.

[BrilloPad]

and the Welsh and the Irish please!

The people of North Wales (the ones who actually speak Welsh) will not be best pleased at that.

[WTFH]

Anyway isn't this the thread for some tedious muppet to start banging on about how the vote was too close and we should do it again (and again and again) until we get the result they want?

No, it's for some muppet to say that because this is the vote, there's no need to ever vote on anything ever again. Long live the leader, and the party. It's the will of the people.

[original PM]

Anyway isn't this the thread for some tedious muppet to start banging on about how the vote was too close and we should do it again (and again and again) until we get the result they want?

[Zigenare]

When the uk voted to leave the EU, did the EU take part in the vote too?

******* muppet

Some members of the EU did. At least 17.4 million

[PCTNN]

If Scotland want to leave the union then let the English vote!

When the uk voted to leave the EU, did the EU take part in the vote too?

******* muppet