Switching from contract to perm

[quackhandle]

Smells to me that the client was just testing the water for staff anyway, get that a lot outside London. They have no idea how much experienced people cost and the agents lie in order to get the business.

When they come back with a CV and an "expectation" the client draws a sharp breath and goes somewhere quiet for a lie-down.

In this case, the OP's CV never got anywhere near "the client".

qh

[TwoWolves]

Smells to me that the client was just testing the water for staff anyway, get that a lot outside London. They have no idea how much experienced people cost and the agents lie in order to get the business.

When they come back with a CV and an "expectation" the client draws a sharp breath and goes somewhere quiet for a lie-down.

[quackhandle]

That's two minutes I'm not going to get back.

The invoice is in the post.

qh

[Zigenare]

Real conversation between me and a recruiter:

Recruiter: (calls me) - Hi I found you on linkedin tell me your life story and all about your experience
Me: (complies)
Recruiter: So are you looking for contract or perm work?
Me: Contract only
Recruiter: Ah, this role is perm. Would you consider perm?
Me: Erm, not ideally but I guess it would have to be the right company, right role, and £X rate
Recruiter: (tells me all about the company and role, confirms it is £X rate, asks my day rate on last role)
Me: Ok great that actually sounds like a cool company and interesting role, chuck me in for it and let's see what happens. My last role was x per day (didn't lie because why would I lie)
Recruiter: That day rate is obvs more than the perm salary, what do I say when they ask why you want to flip
Me: Well I don't 'want' to flip, but if and when I do it would have to be the right company, right role, and £X rate. Obviously there isn't a snowflakes chance in hell of matching a contract salary to a perm salary so it is always going to have this disparity, as I said - right company right role, let's start the discussion and see whether it goes anywhere anyway.

*(2hrs later Recruiter calls back)*

Recruiter: Hey they're going to ask me why you want to go perm, tell me
Me: (repeats what I said about it needing to be the right company etc)
Recruiter: Ok cool

*(30mins later Recruiter calls back)*

Recruiter: Hey do you know what your last rate worked out to a year?!
Me: Erm, yes of course I do
Recruiter: (tells me anyway) Thats £X per year! They are going to ask me why you want to go perm!
Me: (repeats what I said about it needing to be the right company etc, again. Reminds him that he confirmed it would be £X salary which is the top end for this role - if anybody wanted to flip it doesn't get better)
Recruiter: Ok I'll put it to my account manager

*(20mins later)*
Recruiter: (Emails me saying "They have enough CV's now so recruitment is on hold, thanks for your time")
Me: (Thinks) You called me buddy!... whaddaguy..

You joined the forum to post that tulip? FFS.

[BrilloPad]

Maybe they just wanted your CV?

[Hobosapien]

Recruiter: They are going to ask why you want to go perm.
Answer: So I don't have to deal with recruitment agents.

[GJABS]

Unfortunately agents are not best placed to understand subtle nuances of this kind.

[Paddy]

Ok

[Disordely]

Real conversation between me and a recruiter:

Recruiter: (calls me) - Hi I found you on linkedin tell me your life story and all about your experience
Me: (complies)
Recruiter: So are you looking for contract or perm work?
Me: Contract only
Recruiter: Ah, this role is perm. Would you consider perm?
Me: Erm, not ideally but I guess it would have to be the right company, right role, and £X rate
Recruiter: (tells me all about the company and role, confirms it is £X rate, asks my day rate on last role)
Me: Ok great that actually sounds like a cool company and interesting role, chuck me in for it and let's see what happens. My last role was x per day (didn't lie because why would I lie)
Recruiter: That day rate is obvs more than the perm salary, what do I say when they ask why you want to flip
Me: Well I don't 'want' to flip, but if and when I do it would have to be the right company, right role, and £X rate. Obviously there isn't a snowflakes chance in hell of matching a contract salary to a perm salary so it is always going to have this disparity, as I said - right company right role, let's start the discussion and see whether it goes anywhere anyway.

*(2hrs later Recruiter calls back)*

Recruiter: Hey they're going to ask me why you want to go perm, tell me
Me: (repeats what I said about it needing to be the right company etc)
Recruiter: Ok cool

*(30mins later Recruiter calls back)*

Recruiter: Hey do you know what your last rate worked out to a year?!
Me: Erm, yes of course I do
Recruiter: (tells me anyway) Thats £X per year! They are going to ask me why you want to go perm!
Me: (repeats what I said about it needing to be the right company etc, again. Reminds him that he confirmed it would be £X salary which is the top end for this role - if anybody wanted to flip it doesn't get better)
Recruiter: Ok I'll put it to my account manager

*(20mins later)*
Recruiter: (Emails me saying "They have enough CV's now so recruitment is on hold, thanks for your time")
Me: (Thinks) You called me buddy!... whaddaguy..