Reply to: Chlorine

[Zigenare]

That's mean.

Yep, some eat more than their bodyweight and some less.

If you weren't on my ignore list I'd have liked your post.

[Old Greg]

The average American consumed 42kg of chicken in 2018, according to data from the National Chicken Council, or approximately a quarter of their own body weight, probably, allegedly, ish.

That's mean.

[Zigenare]

The average American consumed 42kg of chicken in 2018, according to data from the National Chicken Council, or approximately a quarter of their own body weight, probably, allegedly, ish.

[BR14]

Don't eat US Chickens, eat More Pork!

ftfy

[Old Greg]

I literally said that it was deliberate.

As for sports horses, plenty of “could”s in your quote. If they did, then that is a hygiene / contamination issue. If they didn’t, then it’s a simple labelling issue. Getting tired of repeating this now.

You do know that your own quote literally says “not a health issue”?

62 is literally thick.

[NotAllThere]

"But expect them to ignore that and go off on one of their crusades with scant regard for facts."

Don't eat US Chicken, it'll kill you! We're all going to die of the tulips!

And thar she blows!

[Zigenare]

Don't expect the "slippery slope" brigade to have any interest. They don't know what animal welfare is, aren't interested in it and are obsessed with driving this country down as low as possible.

In the same way that they will make references to "chickens being pumped full of tap water that is full of chlorine", but provide no evidence of said claims that "tap water" is used - generally it's beef or pork protein.

They are more obsessed with claiming that anyone who is interested in animal welfare is saying that everyone will get sick from eating US chickens.
No, that's not what is being said. Let me repeat:

Animal husbandry in the US is disgraceful.

But expect them to ignore that and go off on one of their crusades with scant regard for facts.

Don't eat US Chicken, it'll kill you! We're all going to die of the tulips!

[WTFH]

I literally said that it was deliberate.

Don't expect the "slippery slope" brigade to have any interest. They don't know what animal welfare is, aren't interested in it and are obsessed with driving this country down as low as possible.

In the same way that they will make references to "chickens being pumped full of tap water that is full of chlorine", but provide no evidence of said claims that "tap water" is used - generally it's beef or pork protein.

They are more obsessed with claiming that anyone who is interested in animal welfare is saying that everyone will get sick from eating US chickens.
No, that's not what is being said. Let me repeat:

Animal husbandry in the US is disgraceful.

But expect them to ignore that and go off on one of their crusades with scant regard for facts.

[Yorkie62]

Quoted for posterity.

At least it wasn't quoted as a suppository.

[meridian]

Chlorine

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

I literally said that it was deliberate.

As for sports horses, plenty of “could”s in your quote. If they did, then that is a hygiene / contamination issue. If they didn’t, then it’s a simple labelling issue. Getting tired of repeating this now.

You do know that your own quote literally says “not a health issue”?

[Old Greg]

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

Quoted for posterity.

[Yorkie62]

You keep saying cross-contamination, which suggests that you don’t know that the decision to introduce horse meat was deliberate and not an accidental contamination.

Of course “whether it was fit for human consumption” would be a hygiene question, but that was not the issue with the horse meat. You’re now making things up to suit your story.

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

[Zigenare]

Luckily I am not in a position where I count every penny and so £2 chickens from Morrisons do not really figure - I do buy chicken from Morrisons - often the pre diced stuff for when doing old el paso mexican stuff.

As Yorkie says the supermarkets plump up meat with water to make it look better (local landlord and chef was banging on about this the other year.) however by the time it has been fried up with a load of peppers n 'spices' then it is 'fine'

You probably need to recognise that a lot of people in the Uk do not eat fresh regularly - oven chips, frozen peas and chicken nuggets are common food for many people - and you may as well stick whatever crap you want in a chicken nugget...

Just so long as they don't come from the US, because when that happens we're all going to die!!!!!

[original PM]

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

Luckily I am not in a position where I count every penny and so £2 chickens from Morrisons do not really figure - I do buy chicken from Morrisons - often the pre diced stuff for when doing old el paso mexican stuff.

As Yorkie says the supermarkets plump up meat with water to make it look better (local landlord and chef was banging on about this the other year.) however by the time it has been fried up with a load of peppers n 'spices' then it is 'fine'

You probably need to recognise that a lot of people in the Uk do not eat fresh regularly - oven chips, frozen peas and chicken nuggets are common food for many people - and you may as well stick whatever crap you want in a chicken nugget...

[Zigenare]

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

Where are they sourced currently?