Reply to: the new political order

[filthy1980]

Due to skill and talent or nepotism?

there's never one reason for this but i think genetics and culture play a huge part

race and IQ correlations with economic success is a controversial area, but Ashkenazi Jews tend to be the most successful ethnic group with one of the highest IQ's

the values of a culture will also play a part, if you grow up in the understanding of hard work and to strive for success then more members of that culture are likely to achieve that

and then once you are in the "power positions" the generation following you have a slightly easier path because they can benefit from socio-cultural networks better education etc

[original PM]

yes, that and the fact that jewish people are probably the most successful ethnic group in whichever society they inhabit, so hold a disproportionate number senior positions in business or politics

socialists obviously want to attack these positions of power and attribute the over representation of Jewish people as some sort of conspiracy (ie "they're just in it for themselves" "they all support Isreal who are oppressing the Palestinians" "we stand on the side of the oppressed" . . . . hence the antisemitism

Due to skill and talent or nepotism?

[filthy1980]

Well if you think about it the 'typical stereotype jew' is seen as a penny pinching money lender only in it for their own profit.

Which is clearly at odds with any socialist ideology.

yes, that and the fact that jewish people are probably the most successful ethnic group in whichever society they inhabit, so hold a disproportionate number senior positions in business or politics

socialists obviously want to attack these positions of power and attribute the over representation of Jewish people as some sort of conspiracy (ie "they're just in it for themselves" "they all support Isreal who are oppressing the Palestinians" "we stand on the side of the oppressed" . . . . hence the antisemitism

[original PM]

i follow a lot of labour die hards on the old twitter, ordinarily they quick to jump on every type of "ism" or support the case of the oppressed

but when it comes to antisemitism within Corbyn's labour they;re strangely quiet or reserved in their criticism

on the surface i would attribute this to pure tribalism but i think deeper down antisemitism is a feature and not a bug of socialist ideology

Well if you think about it the 'typical stereotype jew' is seen as a penny pinching money lender only in it for their own profit.

Which is clearly at odds with any socialist ideology.

[filthy1980]

to be honest i'm enjoying the destruction of the political parties, burn it all down and start again

[BlasterBates]

More Tories resigning today apparently.

The rumour is that the plan is to resign in waves to keep themselves on the front page, particularly if a no deal becomes inevitable.

Lets see.

[BlasterBates]

This is Boris Johnson's chance, now that the Remoaners in chief have gone, he's a shoe in.

He needs to lead them into the next GE with the slogan f*** business on buses all over the country.

[meridian]

The DUP got a billion. But even that was not enough for them to support TM "deal". How much for that?

There’s a separate sub-forum for that discussion ;-)

[GreenMirror]

They’ll support the government on a confidence and supply basis, for the going rate of £1bn.

The DUP got a billion. But even that was not enough for them to support TM "deal". How much for that?

[meridian]

There they go: Three Tory MPs join Labour breakaway group - BBC News

They’ll support the government on a confidence and supply basis, for the going rate of £1bn.

[NickFitz]

Looks like the Tories are beginning to peel off as well.

Tory MPs 'set to resign from party today' as Theresa May heads abroad for a day | The Independent

that makes 11

There they go: Three Tory MPs join Labour breakaway group - BBC News

[BlasterBates]

They should make a film and call it Oceans 11

...and the sequels Ocean's 12 and 13

[Yorkie62]

Looks like the Tories are beginning to peel off as well.

Tory MPs 'set to resign from party today' as Theresa May heads abroad for a day | The Independent

that makes 11

They should make a film and call it Oceans 11

[BlasterBates]

Looks like the Tories are beginning to peel off as well.

Tory MPs 'set to resign from party today' as Theresa May heads abroad for a day | The Independent

that makes 11

[saptastic]

The magnificent seven are no more.

No.8 joins....

"Joan Ryan has become the eighth Labour MP to quit the party in the past 48 hours, citing a "culture of anti-Jewish racism"

They will have more MPs than the Lib Dems shortly.