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Previously on "Buried News - Public Health Grant Cuts"

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  • Bean
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Helping people pay less tax is hardly a constructive use of taxpayers money...



    And most of that £85m would be saved by getting rid of all the middle managers who sit around all day dreaming up stupid ways to spend even more money. I can tell the end of year is approaching, because I get deluged with texts and other targeted mail to quit smoking. They need to spend the cash quickly, or they don't get it next year.
    Indeed, with another benefit of the other budget restrictions being less people alive to receive pensions...(if it weren’t going to the NHS centrally instead, that is)

    Surprised the government aren’t promoting horse riding, after their response to Prof Nutt and the MDMA comments years ago

    We’ve all heard about spend it or lose it, end of financial year stupidity, with it being just that.

    If you haven’t spent it this year, you don’t need it next year... ffs, public sector thinking eh?

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  • Bean
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Central government does the same - uses money to buy votes (DUP spring to mind?). But as a nation, how do we want it to be run? With all spend and control from a central government, or devolved locally where (you would hope) there is a better understanding of where the spend is most required?
    1st question is whataboutery, but for the others i’ll refer you to my earlier post, stating:
    Originally posted by Bean
    Could it be, central government thinks that money is used in a much less partisan way within the NHS?
    So a short answer is to your 2nd question is yes, centrally, but given to a relatively non-partisan public body, the NHS, which will simultaneously deliver the same results as your 3rd ‘question’

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  • Bean
    replied
    Originally posted by Whorty
    ...It surprises me that NHS budgets are actually being cut...
    Originally posted by Bean
    It’s clear you didn’t even read the article (as per usual)
    Originally posted by Bean
    the the spokesperson for the LA said:
    Increasing spending for the NHS while cutting funding for services that impact health is a false economy.”
    Originally posted by Whorty
    I read the article .... I just chose to write a cretinous post instead
    Ftfy

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  • Mordac
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    Public health budgets for local authorities will be slashed by £85m in 2019-20, the government announced yesterday.

    The total funding package handed down from central government to local government has shrunk from £3.215bn in 2018-19 to £3.134bn in 2019-20.

    Funding is used for things like sexual health services, stop smoking campaigns, drug and alcohol treatment.
    Helping people pay less tax is hardly a constructive use of taxpayers money...



    And most of that £85m would be saved by getting rid of all the middle managers who sit around all day dreaming up stupid ways to spend even more money. I can tell the end of year is approaching, because I get deluged with texts and other targeted mail to quit smoking. They need to spend the cash quickly, or they don't get it next year.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by Bean View Post
    Could it be, that central government thinks the local authorities use such monies in a politically-motivated way (think labour councils ‘buying the youth vote’), that are not always aligned to central government?

    Could it be, central government thinks that money is used in a much less partisan way within the NHS?
    Central government does the same - uses money to buy votes (DUP spring to mind?). But as a nation, how do we want it to be run? With all spend and control from a central government, or devolved locally where (you would hope) there is a better understanding of where the spend is most required?

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by Bean View Post
    I’ve bolded the relevant part of your post, to see if you can spot the flaw in your own logic
    (If we were to take the statement as factual, that is)

    PS. This thread is in general, so you’re skirting close to the edge Whorty.

    PPS. It’s clear you didn’t even read the article (as per usual), as the spokesperson for the LA said:
    Increasing spending for the NHS while cutting funding for services that impact health is a false economy.”
    Skirting close to the edge? I've no idea what you're referring to I was merely talking about the new financial year and hence new budgets .... honest

    I read the article .... I just chose to write my own narrative as is the way on here

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  • Bean
    replied
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Government buried this on the last working day before Christmas - Government slammed for public health grant cuts | Public Finance

    Just don't get an STI now will you....
    Could it be, that central government thinks the local authorities use such monies in a politically-motivated way (think labour councils ‘buying the youth vote’), that are not always aligned to central government?

    Could it be, central government thinks that money is used in a much less partisan way within the NHS?

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  • Bean
    replied
    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    I could have sworn that I read somewhere that after March next year there would be more cash available for the NHS. It surprises me that NHS budgets are actually being cut ... now, where did I read about that NHS dividend?!?
    I’ve bolded the relevant part of your post, to see if you can spot the flaw in your own logic
    (If we were to take the statement as factual, that is)

    PS. This thread is in general, so you’re skirting close to the edge Whorty.

    PPS. It’s clear you didn’t even read the article (as per usual), as the spokesperson for the LA said:
    Increasing spending for the NHS while cutting funding for services that impact health is a false economy.”
    Last edited by Bean; 22 December 2018, 12:36. Reason: PPS added to highlight even more cretinism of Whorty

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  • Whorty
    replied
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Government buried this on the last working day before Christmas - Government slammed for public health grant cuts | Public Finance

    Just don't get an STI now will you....
    I could have sworn that I read somewhere that after March next year there would be more cash available for the NHS. It surprises me that NHS budgets are actually being cut ... now, where did I read about that NHS dividend?!?

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  • xoggoth
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    Probably the consequences of some of these savings end up costing more. Look at all the fly tipping since councils started charging so much for commercial disposals.

    PS
    Just don't get an STI now will you....
    Chance would be a fine thing.

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  • SueEllen
    started a topic Buried News - Public Health Grant Cuts

    Buried News - Public Health Grant Cuts

    Government buried this on the last working day before Christmas - Government slammed for public health grant cuts | Public Finance

    Just don't get an STI now will you....

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