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[meridian]

Why have your other posts insinuating that it was Asian students disappeared? They’re still in the quotes, it the originals seem to have gone.

Have you backed away from that assertion now that you can’t find any evidence for it?

Or is this post, which covers all students and not any particular race, meant to cover it?

Plagiarism in general and detecting it isn’t new. My wife’s just finished her degree, and every essay went through Turnitin for checking.

Edit: and checking linguistics may not help in cases where translation services are an accepted method,

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**** off snowflake

Well, that's charming. A racist, you delete all your posts, and you're hiding in the comments. Happy Christmas to you, too

[meridian]

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Cheating university students face FBI-style crackdown - BBC News

And I'll not mention the thicko who failed to pay his essay writer & thusly got shopped by same & was so stupid he got himself booted out with nothing.

It was most seriously gratifying.

Why have your other posts insinuating that it was Asian students disappeared? They’re still in the quotes, it the originals seem to have gone.

Have you backed away from that assertion now that you can’t find any evidence for it?

Or is this post, which covers all students and not any particular race, meant to cover it?

Plagiarism in general and detecting it isn’t new. My wife’s just finished her degree, and every essay went through Turnitin for checking.

Edit: and checking linguistics may not help in cases where translation services are an accepted method,

[meridian]

As the man says - do you have any experience of this or are you just virtue signalling?

hmmmm?

Not relevant to asking questions. Perhaps if you asked more questions yourself instead of blindly chasing dogwhistles you might be a more productive member of society.

Feel free to answer them yourself, if you have any experience of this. After all, you did agree with his comment so presumably this means you have the experience to agree?

[original PM]

It sounds from what you are saying that translation services are accepted and allowable. Your initial post suggested that this was an underhand method of cheating. Translation services still means that the student does the work, doesn’t it?

And if this is the case, how do “the numbers” (you haven’t provided numbers yet, just anecdote and conjecture) work in exams etc. Are translation services provided there, as well?

Is there an army of technicians giving too much assistance? This appears to be what you are suggesting, with “the numbers”. Or just one rogue technician passing hundreds of exams....

As the man says - do you have any experience of this or are you just virtue signalling?

hmmmm?

[sasguru]

Don't flatter yourself. You took two years to do a one year 'degree' in statistics.

You were right not to do it though, you wouldn't have been able to cope with the maths, just like you thought.

[meridian]

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A good 50% to 75% of some classes from the Orient.

It's not unusual that one will have excellent English, and provides translation services for the rest.

Is that casually racist enough for you?

Or do you have experience of working in this sort of environment?

Some Esteemed Customers are extremely bright but held back by the difficulty they have in understanding what's being said or written.

And certainly those from the Orient will have far far better understanding of mathematics than the local oiks, to whit:

"How are you doing with the maths?"

"Oh, it's quite trivial really"

However he couldn't understand how to remove a BNC lead from a scope and apparently the technician gave far too much assistance.

It sounds from what you are saying that translation services are accepted and allowable. Your initial post suggested that this was an underhand method of cheating. Translation services still means that the student does the work, doesn’t it?

And if this is the case, how do “the numbers” (you haven’t provided numbers yet, just anecdote and conjecture) work in exams etc. Are translation services provided there, as well?

Is there an army of technicians giving too much assistance? This appears to be what you are suggesting, with “the numbers”. Or just one rogue technician passing hundreds of exams....

[meridian]

Doesn't quite explain the number of Esteemed Customers who can't speaka da lingo which, all in all, is a bit worrying.

Especially when they turn in stuff in perfect English.

Any evidence for “the number”? Or just casual racism?

[Whorty]

Catering College of Life, sunshine.

Otherwise known as Burger King

[vetran]

Doesn't quite explain the number of Esteemed Customers who can't speaka da lingo which, all in all, is a bit worrying.

Especially when they turn in stuff in perfect English.

don't upset their version of reality they cling to it in desperation.

[vetran]

You are real numpties. The TOEFL is a stringent test and it does not rely on local dodgy educational establishments to turn a blind eye to substitutes.

TOEFL iBT: What to Bring

You failed then?

[vetran]

Don't flatter yourself. You took two years to find your crayons.

FTFY.

[minestrone]

Therein lies the greater devaluation of the academic system, the 'masters conversion course'.

Seems you can just rock up these days to some Unis with crap school grades, chuck a bit of money down and walk out with a 'masters' after a bit of 'distance learning'.

As an employer I'm generally dismissive of these types.

Any discipline that offers a 'masters' before an ordinary degree is attained should be questioned as to the rigour it places on students.

[minestrone]

Indeed. The safe space seem to be CUK general.

Don't flatter yourself. You took two years to do a one year 'degree' in statistics.

[sasguru]

There are people who don't get an A in maths? Surely such cretins are locked away in a safe space?

Indeed. The safe space seem to be CUK general.

[Paddy]

Or, in some cases, "someone" took the exam for them.

But I'm obviously being bitter again, it would appear.

how very dare you, no-one from abroad would do such a dishonest thing!

You are real numpties. The TOEFL is a stringent test and it does not rely on local dodgy educational establishments to turn a blind eye to substitutes.

TOEFL iBT: What to Bring

What to Bring on Test Day
Valid, Acceptable Identification (ID) Document(s)
Test takers are advised to bring at least 2 forms of acceptable ID each time they report to a test center. With few exceptions, ID documents must meet all of the following requirements. Each ID document must:

be an original document; photocopied documents are not acceptable
be valid; expired documents (bearing expiration dates that have passed) are not acceptable
include the test taker's full name matching exactly the name used to register
include a recent photograph that clearly matches the test taker
include the test taker's signature
For more information, see Identification Requirements.

If you do not bring valid and acceptable identification, or if the name on your ID does not exactly match the name on your registration, you will not be permitted to test and your test fee will not be refunded.

You may be required to show your ID and/or to sign a test center log at various points throughout the test administration.
If the test administrator questions the ID you present, you may be required to provide a supplemental ID. If positive confirmation cannot be made, you may not be permitted to test or your test scores may be held or canceled.
Prior admission to a test center based on a given ID document does not guarantee that that document will be considered acceptable. Test centers are not required to hold your seat if you leave the center to obtain acceptable identification.
Admission to the test center does not assure that the ID you provided is valid or that your scores will be reported. All reported cases of questionable ID are subject to review and approval by the ETS Office of Testing Integrity either during or after the test administration. ETS reserves the right to hold and/or cancel scores in the event that the ID requirements set forth herein are not met.