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Previously on "No escaping the Russians"

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  • AtW
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    “Their current whereabouts are totally unknown. Their family in Russia have apparently been denied all access to them.”

    So after very nearly successful attempt on their lives they should post their address and drink tea with their Russian family?

    ZH truly bests the Daily Express in writing stuff for complete Mor Ons
    Last edited by AtW; 5 March 2020, 14:31.

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  • Jog On
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    2 years since this happened - ZH have done quite a good summary of the official story:

    Sergei Skripal, a Russian military intelligence officer, was found guilty of spying for the UK in 2006, and sentenced to 13 years in prison.

    In 2010 he was released and traded to the United Kingdom as part of a spy swap. Having settled in the UK Sergei lived a quiet and comfortable life of retirement, so far as we know

    Eight years later, in early 2018, with a Presidential election looming and just weeks before Russia was due to host the FIFA World Cup, Vladimir Putin decided to assassinate him for as yet obscure reasons.

    The GU, Russia’s military intelligence unit, dispatched two of their elite officers, who proceeded to fly direct from Moscow under aliases they had allegedly already employed and using Russian passports.

    These alleged assassins carried with them two perfume bottles full of “Novichok”, allegedly one of the deadliest nerve agents ever devised. This would be enough to kill around 800,000 people.

    On arriving in the UK these highly-trained covert agents book a hotel with a CCTV camera on the front door, and the next day, March 3, they travel to Salisbury by train, allegedly to recon the area, then return to London. They are apparently observed by CCTV camera’s the entire time.

    The day following, March 4, they again travel to Salisbury, this time the master assassins walk to Skripal’s house and somehow “smear” the liquid Novichok on the handle of his front door.

    No eye-witness, photograph or piece of CCTV footage has ever been made publicly available to show either of these two men anywhere in the area of Sergei Skripal’s house.

    The whereabouts of the opened bottle of poison have never been established.

    Having applied the poison, the two highly trained assassins do two things before returning to London. 1) They drop their second, unopened, bottle of novichok (presumably enough to kill approx 400,000 people) in a charity donation bin, rather than destroying it or taking it back to Russia. 2) They stop by an antiques store to browse.

    The two assassins leave the country that afternoon, flying direct to Moscow, without knowing if their alleged target is dead, and again making no effort to conceal their origins.

    Despite both handling the poison, and somehow carrying enough of it back to contaminate their hotel room, neither of the men – nor any of the staff, train passengers or passersby who come into contact with them – ever become sick, even though only 0.2mg of Novichok is an allegedly lethal dose.

    Later that afternoon, Sergei and Yulia Skripal are found “almost unconscious”on a park bench in Salisbury town centre. It is claimed this was due to contact with the Novichok smeared on Sergei’s door handle, though reports originally stated neither he nor his daughter had returned to the house, and the timing seems to make it unlikely they did

    The person who found them was the most senior nurse in the British Army (likely in the area as part of Toxic Dagger, the British Military’s landmark chemical weapons training exercise which began Feb 20th and ran on until March 12th).

    The nurse and her family administer “emergency aid” to the two alleged poisoning victims. Neither she nor anyone else on the scene, nor any of the first responders, ever experience any symptoms of nerve agent poisoning. Neither do any of the other people the Skripal’s came into contact with that day.

    DS Nick Bailey, a CID officer is in contact with the Skripals or their home at this time and subsequently becomes ill. It has never been stated how exactly he was exposed. It was initially reported he was a first responder to the scene, but that story was changed and it was later claimed he visited the Skripal hpouse. Despite the alleged lethality of novichok in even very minute doses, Bailey is fit to return home after 18 days.

    Porton Down, the British government’s chemical weapons research centre, is brought in to help identify what chemical – if any – the Skripals/Bailey were exposed to.

    Within a month they release a statement claiming the poison was “a novichok like agent”, but that they could not pinpoint its origin. How they were able to test for a (at the time) theoretical chemical without having a sample to test against, has never been explained.

    Porton Down is 8 minutes away from Salisbury by car.

    Nearly four months later, in late June of 2018, Charlie Rowley finds the unopened perfume bottle a full of novichok (whether he bought it from a charity shop or found it in a bin is unclear, both stories have been reported). Upon using the perfume Rowley’s partner, Dawn Sturgess, falls ill. Later that day Rowley also falls ill. Sturgess dies in hospital two weeks later. But Rowley survives. Making him the fourth person in this narrative to survive exposure to an agent lethal in doses as small as 0.2mg.

    Sergei Skripal and Julia both recovered and allegedly chose to live secluded lives. Sergei has not appeared in public at all since allegedly being found on that park bench. Yulia made one brief press statement. Their current whereabouts are totally unknown. Their family in Russia have apparently been denied all access to them. DS Bailey was initially also keen to maintain his privacy but has subsequently given at least one interview some while after the event.
    Luckily no squirrels got hurt either.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Yeah - I think if that is the way you really think then he has already won.
    ---->


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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Yeah, we already know what he can do if provoked - like invade neighbour country and annex part of it.

    So let's not provoke Vlad and just give him what he wants.
    Yeah - I think if that is the way you really think then he has already won.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    Vled is redy to smesh as vell if provoke...
    Yeah, we already know what he can do if provoked - like invade neighbour country and annex part of it.

    So let's not provoke Vlad and just give him what he wants.

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  • Jog On
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    Vladimir Putin sympathises with Nurmagomedov over McGregor brawl

    Putin appeared to reference McGregor’s behaviour in the build-up to the fight when he met Nurmagomedov on Wednesday. McGregor had previously mocked the Russian fighter’s father, country and religion. “Anyone could have jumped [out of the octagon] in the same way,” said Putin. “If we are attacked from the outside, not only you, we could all jump in such a way … there could be hell to pay.” Putin added that “it’s better not to reach that stage.”
    Vled is redy to smesh as vell if provoke...

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    Bloody hell, he runs faster backwards than an Italian!

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  • Jog On
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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    I thought this was one of those trans stories. Woman 'identifies' as viaduct
    FTFY.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I thought this was one of those trans stories. Woman 'identifies' as Anatoliy Chepiga

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I am calling you that
    It's like being savaged by a dead sheep!!

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    You're calling CNBC, the guardian, BBC news and Reuters 'Russian propaganda'.
    I am calling you that

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    You're calling CNBC, the guardian, BBC news and Reuters 'Russian propaganda'.

    He doesn't agree with it and he belongs to that special group that calls everything they don't believe lies & propaganda, its like being in the student union without the hot chicks just the spotty bespectacled nascent commies.

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  • Jog On
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Yeah, thanks for spreading Russian propaganda, clearly the West got no chance and should surrender to the new Glorious Dear Leader Puten
    You're calling CNBC, the guardian, BBC news and Reuters 'Russian propaganda'.

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  • NotAllThere
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    The Times headline this morning was about Russian Trolls targetting teenagers via social media. It made me wish that Norway had been the evil empire instead. Then we could have headlines about Norwegian Trolls.

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