British Giovernment - corrupt and incompetent or just a bit corrupt?

[NigelJK]

Private Eye often expose these things years before mainstream media wake from their slumber and notice the story, and then try and take credit for it.

FTFY

[ProInDisguise]

Hello,
I've worked in the private and public sector for a number of different organisations over the past 20 years and I've see a few things that have made me seriously question what goes on here, to give a few examples:

- The University which would happily pay a consultancy rates for a weekend's work, but would not allow their own capable and willing staff to do the same work (to a higher standard) at an overtime payment for less than a fifth of the cost.
- The Counter Fraud department which had a minimum order number of 300 items, so when we needed 2 label printers were needed, we were told that purchasing couldn't deal with anything under 300 items, so the answer is to buy 300 and leave 298 label printers boxed in a room for several years.
- The GCAT rules which stipulate only approved suppliers can be used for all items, regardless if it takes twice as long and is twice as expensive.
- The DWP department who's work load came in 3 month cycles, but decided it's easier to employ rooms of contractors for 24 months rather than deal with resourcing - the net result being a couple of room fulls of day contractors sitting around for 3 months twiddling their thumbs whilst waiting for the next work load.
- I've recently come across a case whereby the department of health has forced an organisation to use a new supplier, rather than continue with the incumbent as the incumbent isn't deemed "high profile" enough - the net result is that the project is behind schedule, over budget by £6m and will likely fall significantly short of it's goals.

I'd like to think that a lot of this is a result of someone sensible taking a 50,000 foot view of the world and making decisions for the greater good that have minor inefficiencies here and there, however I can't help but think it's more down to incompetence and fraud...

But but but... Paying your taxes is a moral issue!

[NotAllThere]

The only way you can report things like that is to get a journalist to expose it in the media.

Private Eye often expose these things years before mainstream media wake from their slumber and notice the story.

[BrilloPad]

I bet they can spell though - "Giovernment"

[barrydidit]

That is more like corruption, follow the money and it will lead back to the those who authorised the lending.

James Crosby. Andy Hornby. Peter Cummings. Not new news.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/pra/D...ports/hbos.pdf

And, altogether now....

[SueEllen]

For everyone's high falutin' talk, does anyone actually bother to get the evidence and report it? https://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/re...ry-corruption/ or is it just hot air?

The only way you can report things like that is to get a journalist to expose it in the media.

[Paddy]

For everyone's high falutin' talk, does anyone actually bother to get the evidence and report it? https://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/re...ry-corruption/ or is it just hot air?

It does not work. Just Google what cases were followed up.

Just to add, the local town hall near villa Paddy has a sign in the building and on its webpage for anonymous reporting of corruption.

[darmstadt]

That is more like corruption, follow the money and it will lead back to the those who authorised the lending.

The amount of corruption that I have come across is too numerous to mention. The trouble is that the UK hides corruption whereas other countries have corruption hot-lines to report it.

For everyone's high falutin' talk, does anyone actually bother to get the evidence and report it? https://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/re...ry-corruption/ or is it just hot air?

[Paddy]

I once worked for a banking PLC that securitised it's entire mortgage book then gave the cash to Irish property developers to fill in the bogs with newbuild estates. They didn't get their money back, indeed they went bust. So I wouldn't assume that those fine examples of stupidity (and they are fine, btw) are confined to the realms of public service.

That is more like corruption, follow the money and it will lead back to the those who authorised the lending.

The amount of corruption that I have come across is too numerous to mention. The trouble is that the UK hides corruption whereas other countries have corruption hot-lines to report it.

[barrydidit]

I once worked for a banking PLC that securitised it's entire mortgage book then gave the cash to Irish property developers to fill in the bogs with newbuild estates. They didn't get their money back, indeed they went bust. So I wouldn't assume that those fine examples of stupidity (and they are fine, btw) are confined to the realms of public service.

[smitty]

Hello,
I've worked in the private and public sector for a number of different organisations over the past 20 years and I've see a few things that have made me seriously question what goes on here, to give a few examples:

- The University which would happily pay a consultancy rates for a weekend's work, but would not allow their own capable and willing staff to do the same work (to a higher standard) at an overtime payment for less than a fifth of the cost.
- The Counter Fraud department which had a minimum order number of 300 items, so when we needed 2 label printers were needed, we were told that purchasing couldn't deal with anything under 300 items, so the answer is to buy 300 and leave 298 label printers boxed in a room for several years.
- The GCAT rules which stipulate only approved suppliers can be used for all items, regardless if it takes twice as long and is twice as expensive.
- The DWP department who's work load came in 3 month cycles, but decided it's easier to employ rooms of contractors for 24 months rather than deal with resourcing - the net result being a couple of room fulls of day contractors sitting around for 3 months twiddling their thumbs whilst waiting for the next work load.
- I've recently come across a case whereby the department of health has forced an organisation to use a new supplier, rather than continue with the incumbent as the incumbent isn't deemed "high profile" enough - the net result is that the project is behind schedule, over budget by £6m and will likely fall significantly short of it's goals.

I'd like to think that a lot of this is a result of someone sensible taking a 50,000 foot view of the world and making decisions for the greater good that have minor inefficiencies here and there, however I can't help but think it's more down to incompetence and fraud...