Reply to: Climate change experts

[glebe digital]

How much do you think those people would be earning with similar year's experience if they had gone into banking?

Pure sophistry! Forgive me but you seem to assume that all humans get the same lucky breaks and have an inbuilt aptitude for fiddling a LIBOR rate; they don't. If we all 'could be anything we wanted' we'd all be doing precisely that.

And anyway, many of your 'ideal bankers' would've been laid-off post Lehman.......personally I'd take a safe chair at a crumbling Uni any day.

[tiggat]

Well TIL the average pay of a university professor in the UK is about £76K, not bad considering you'll never lose you job unless you go 'off message' or fondle some bright young thing.

"Twelve of the top 100 charities paid their highest earners more than £300,000 and 32 more than £200,000."
Charity pay study: Who are the highest earners? | Third Sector

How much do you think those people would be earning with similar year's experience if they had gone into banking?

[tiggat]

Not quite sure why you quoted me there. Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth etc. are charities who love global warming, because it furthers their agenda - not because it makes them rich.

Governments like global warming, because it allows new taxes.

Science has its own fads. If what you're studying isn't mainstream, then you'll find it more difficult to get funding. Especially if what you're studying will negate the research of a large number of scientists.

The problem with man-made global warming science is not that it is in any way bad science, it is simply that it has become highly politicised, and (by the likes of Greenpeace) propagandised.

The fact that something is a charity does not mean that its goals and aims are for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

I suppose you think administering science in NHS hospitals is "highly politicised" and a fad too?

I also think you don't know how tenure works.

[pjclarke]

Nigel Lawson admits claim that global temperatures have fallen was false

Global Warming Policy Foundation concedes that the Tory peer's supposedly official figures were wrong and produced by a right-wing think tank

Experts correct, Lawson wrong.

Good of him to fess up, the usual drill is to wait then restate the false claim at a higher volume....

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...-a7894686.html

[OwlHoot]

I'm pretty sure there is climate change, and I can agree that it might be exacerbate by human activity. I'm 100% certain that various groups - governments, Greenpeace etc. - are using climate change to further their own agendas. I'm a 100% certain that a significant proportion of climate change deniers are as thick as Brexiters.

Agree 98% with that (The 2% is the "as Brexiters" crack obviously, as I am one!)

Actually I only agree 96%, with the another missing 2% being where you say "a significant proportion of" instead of, as it should be, "all"

[SuperZ]

Not quite sure why you quoted me there. Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth etc. are charities who love global warming, because it furthers their agenda - not because it makes them rich.

Governments like global warming, because it allows new taxes.

Science has its own fads. If what you're studying isn't mainstream, then you'll find it more difficult to get funding. Especially if what you're studying will negate the research of a large number of scientists.

The problem with man-made global warming science is not that it is in any way bad science, it is simply that it has become highly politicised, and (by the likes of Greenpeace) propagandised.

The fact that something is a charity does not mean that its goals and aims are for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

Given how opinion of experts seems to change daily on things, such as whether something is good for you or not, I just don't know if they can predict the future on the scale of the climate.
Having said that, to me it's obvious that in a world with growing population and related pollution, something will probably give eventually (one or more of disease, food shortages, the air killing us, global warming, our own stupidity -war).

[NotAllThere]

Right because if you wanted to line your pockets you'd go into academia or charity work ? Get real.

Not quite sure why you quoted me there. Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth etc. are charities who love global warming, because it furthers their agenda - not because it makes them rich.

Governments like global warming, because it allows new taxes.

Science has its own fads. If what you're studying isn't mainstream, then you'll find it more difficult to get funding. Especially if what you're studying will negate the research of a large number of scientists.

The problem with man-made global warming science is not that it is in any way bad science, it is simply that it has become highly politicised, and (by the likes of Greenpeace) propagandised.

The fact that something is a charity does not mean that its goals and aims are for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

[_V_]

People still worry about climate change, I mean compared to Brexit, how bad can it be?

[original PM]

It can also be a money saver for people, who, if instead of whinging and whining actually used less energy, the individuals would save money.

...but no, better to say science is wrong, it's purely for money, and lets try to consume as much of the natural resources as we possibly can.

Matters not.

The sun will be a red giant in 4.5billion years.

And the way we are going people will still be demanding to use the wrong bathroom.

[glebe digital]

Right because if you wanted to line your pockets you'd go into academia or charity work ? Get real.

Well TIL the average pay of a university professor in the UK is about £76K, not bad considering you'll never lose you job unless you go 'off message' or fondle some bright young thing.

"Twelve of the top 100 charities paid their highest earners more than £300,000 and 32 more than £200,000."
Charity pay study: Who are the highest earners? | Third Sector

[tiggat]

I'm pretty sure there is climate change, and I can agree that it might be exacerbate by human activity. I'm 100% certain that various groups - governments, Greenpeace etc. - are using climate change to further their own agendas. I'm a 100% certain that a significant proportion of climate change deniers are as thick as Brexiters.

That there is a climate change, there is no doubt.

How much of it is "man made" is entirely different matter.

One thing is sure, it's a money maker for Scientists and Governments, so it's not going anywhere.

Right because if you wanted to line your pockets you'd go into academia or charity work ? Get real.

[glebe digital]

Used to be a bunch of humans who believed enough human sacrifice would change the weather, now there's a fair number who think enough human sacrifice can change the climate.

Both sets rely on a Priestly caste of 'knowing ones' who are always right & most vigilant against heresy.

Either way, I don't think it really matters. Humans will always be too selfish to take the long view, and capitalism will always tend towards more rapaciousness, rather than less.

Surely it's all academic come the next ice-age anyway.

[NotAllThere]

I'm pretty sure there is climate change, and I can agree that it might be exacerbate by human activity. I'm 100% certain that various groups - governments, Greenpeace etc. - are using climate change to further their own agendas. I'm a 100% certain that a significant proportion of climate change deniers are as thick as Brexiters.

[WTFH]

One thing is sure, it's a money maker for Scientists and Governments, so it's not going anywhere.

It can also be a money saver for people, who, if instead of whinging and whining actually used less energy, the individuals would save money.

...but no, better to say science is wrong, it's purely for money, and lets try to consume as much of the natural resources as we possibly can.

[sal]

That there is a climate change, there is no doubt.

How much of it is "man made" is entirely different matter.

One thing is sure, it's a money maker for Scientists and Governments, so it's not going anywhere.