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Previously on "Is anyone else getting bored and somewhat offended by this $h1t"

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  • Acme Thunderer
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    I believe they found a solution...

    Student debt - ~100 billion
    Trident - ~200 billion
    Except:

    No-one has ever said replacement will cost £200 billion.

    The figures quoted are for its 30+ year lifecycle so annually it would cost between 3 and 5 bln per year somewhat short of the 100 billion student loan writeoff.

    What would you do with the 7000 people that work for BAE submarines or the several thousand at Faslane or the highly skilled engineering and scientific communities maintaining the weapons, developing new sonar systems, propulsion systems, nuclear reactors? Don't say something else because you would have spent the money elsewhere

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    I thing he means he will deal with the people rather than their problem. Koncentration Kamp.....

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    I believe they found a solution...

    Student debt - ~100 billion
    Trident - ~200 billion

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  • xoggoth
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    A more recent example is Corbyn's suppose promise to wipe out existing student loans when all he said is we will look at it
    No he didn't, he said he'd deal with it.

    Jeremy Corbyn: 'I will deal with those already burdened with student debt' - NME

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    But what proportion of non-white is sufficient to be classified as an ethnic minority? 25%, 12.5%? And why am I reminded of South African and Southern US old race laws?
    Bremoaners are an oppressed minority at 48%.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    But what proportion of non-white is sufficient to be classified as an ethnic minority? 25%, 12.5%? And why am I reminded of South African and Southern US old race laws?
    Problem with Social Sciences is they don't respect different countries have different attitudes to racial issues.

    So in the UK we tend to go on looks which I know creates it's own problems.

    Also regardless of what country you live in you self identify. Though if your self identity conflicts with what society thinks you are you get into trouble.

    I found it interesting when traveling in Australia and New Zealand that these completely white looking people with Anglo-Saxon names claimed to be aborigine or Moari.

    I was later told by a Brit who worked in Oz with deprived people, that it got absolutely ridiculous as you got these blonde blue eyed people with Anglo-Saxon names claiming discrimination due to their ethnicity when the real issue was poverty causing lack of opportunity.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-people-racist

    my statement that “white middle class, white working class, white men, white women, white gays, white children” are racist, while rhetorically hyperbolic, was a clear reference to the fact that racism is not an exclusive characteristic of any one demographic.

    Cambridgeshire police should not have dropped their investigation....
    The media has a habit of taking people's conversations and statements out of context.

    I remember the Archbishop of Canterbury saying something about poor people one Christmas. It was translated by the press as a comment on the coalition there as if you read the entire thing he clearly didn't

    A more recent example is Corbyn's suppose promise to wipe out existing student loans when all he said is we will look at it.

    This is why Maybot copied Bliar and Camoron by giving short statements that mean nothing.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    It doesn't work like that in Social Sciences.

    They, your kids, are a still a minority regardless of the fact they are mixed race so are subject to racism. There as you, their white parent, are completely racist. )
    But what proportion of non-white is sufficient to be classified as an ethnic minority? 25%, 12.5%? And why am I reminded of South African and Southern US old race laws?

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  • BrilloPad
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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-people-racist

    my statement that “white middle class, white working class, white men, white women, white gays, white children” are racist, while rhetorically hyperbolic, was a clear reference to the fact that racism is not an exclusive characteristic of any one demographic.

    Cambridgeshire police should not have dropped their investigation....

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    It is offensive. I suppose since my kids are mixed race, they're half racist?
    It doesn't work like that in Social Sciences.

    They, your kids, are a still a minority regardless of the fact they are mixed race so are subject to racism. There as you, their white parent, are completely racist.


    (Yes it is a load of tulip as Social Science theories can't cope with complexity e.g. intersectionality)

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Hmm - the only time i ever read the DM is by following links from here - in addition right now I have a story about a pub boss who has fallen in love and has sex with his Jag X type (from the Sun) and just below that something from BBC news about a mid air near miss.

    So I am not convinced your views on google news feeds is spot on.

    In fact I am sure because even though I hate apple products and never google search for them every time I check my feed there is some apple related sh1t.
    Google actually follows what you read. Many sites use Google stuff hence they, Google, can track you in lots of places.

    So if you link to the Daily Mail from here Google notices that and Daily Mail stories appear in your news feed.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    It is offensive. I suppose since my kids are mixed race, they're half racist?
    Well it would. The google news feed is tailored to your interests garnered from what you search for and your historic news reading patterns. So if you're a narrow minded, dim xenophobic DM reader (just as a hypothetical example), you'll get this kind of news popping up more often that it would for your average Socialist Worker's reader.

    Perhaps it should be "Black Lives Matter As Well".
    Hmm - the only time i ever read the DM is by following links from here - in addition right now I have a story about a pub boss who has fallen in love and has sex with his Jag X type (from the Sun) and just below that something from BBC news about a mid air near miss.

    So I am not convinced your views on google news feeds is spot on.

    In fact I am sure because even though I hate apple products and never google search for them every time I check my feed there is some apple related sh1t.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Bee View Post
    It depends on what kind of white you are.

    White British
    White Irish
    Gypsy, Irish Traveler
    Any other white background.

    Are you suggesting all Gypsies are Irish? The UK has plenty of Gypsies.

    Inneresting calling them travelers when they rarely move. Dale Farm.

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  • Bee
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    It is offensive. I suppose since my kids are mixed race, they're half racist?
    It depends on what kind of white you are.

    White British
    White Irish
    Gypsy, Irish Traveler
    Any other white background.

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  • NotAllThere
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    It is offensive. I suppose since my kids are mixed race, they're half racist?
    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    It's a fair point popped up on my google news feed.
    Well it would. The google news feed is tailored to your interests garnered from what you search for and your historic news reading patterns. So if you're a narrow minded, dim xenophobic DM reader (just as a hypothetical example), you'll get this kind of news popping up more often that it would for your average Socialist Worker's reader.

    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    ... 'Black Lives Matter' ...
    Perhaps it should be "Black Lives Matter As Well".

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