Reply to: Bye bye NHS

[Platypus]

Are they any benefits to working in the NHS?

I think that was covered:

everything designed by committee with constant meetings attended by hordes of permies each wanting a finger in every pie

= Neverending contracts

[woohoo]

I wouldn't exactly say circa £250 per day give or take fifty quid well paid given expenses no longer allowed to be put through the books. That's about the average for NHS contracting (outside London).

250 a day, can I ask why you didnt move into the private sector? Are they any benefits to working in the NHS?

[OwlHoot]

I wouldn't exactly say circa £250 per day give or take fifty quid well paid given expenses no longer allowed to be put through the books. That's about the average for NHS contracting (outside London).

I feel sorry for anyone contracting in the NHS, not only the IR35 hoohah but the modest rates, and everything designed by committee with constant meetings attended by hordes of permies each wanting a finger in every pie (With your user name, you must be all too familiar with that! )

[Scotchpie]

High earning NHS contractor points out that cash strapped NHS is fooocked...

Classic.

I wouldn't exactly say circa £250 per day give or take fifty quid well paid given expenses no longer allowed to be put through the books. That's about the average for NHS contracting (outside London).

[vetran]

Working on the Windows 3.1 upgrade?

FTFY

[SueEllen]

For anyone in a critical condition, the NHS works incredibly well. A few outliers - like what happened to Mother-Out-Law.

For those not critical, it is not so good.

Unfortunately I know far too many people - myself included - who if they were treated earlier would have cost the NHS far less to treat as they wouldn't have need emergency care and/or expensive medication.

[oscarose]

I've spent 10 good years contracting with the NHS

Working on the Windows XP upgrade?

[tiggat]

the latter because its outcomes are poor.

are they?

[BrilloPad]

For anyone in a critical condition, the NHS works incredibly well. A few outliers - like what happened to Mother-Out-Law.

For those not critical, it is not so good.

[sasguru]

It's clear both the excessively privatised US system and its diametric opposite, the Soviet_style, centrally funded UK NHS are not fit for purpose.
The former because it costs the US excessively while excluding the poorest, the latter because its outcomes are poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ountries-study

A European-style insurance-based system is the best option.
But the number of stupid people in this country is now so excessive that anyone who starts talking about NHS change is crucified.
Even middle class people think dumping money in the NHS is the solution

[original PM]

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

And then the CEO and outsourcing company boss meet up for game of golf before a few drinks down at The lodge.

Indeed - in fact the 'old boys network' is probably one of the biggest threats to the UK - forget Brexit or Labour/Tory - but the inability for business leaders to stop this pointless merry go round of useless tw@s

Main problem is those at the top are on the same merry go round!

[PurpleGorilla]

Bye bye NHS

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

And then the CEO and outsourcing company boss meet up for game of golf before a few drinks down at The lodge.

[PurpleGorilla]

Is competition a good thing in healthcare? It was outsourcing cleaning that gave rise to MRSA in British hospitals ...

Remember when hospitals used to smell of bleach. Lovely smell. Now they smell of body fluids.

[woohoo]

Competition doesn't mean go for the cheapest bid.....

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

[eek]

Is competition a good thing in healthcare? It was outsourcing cleaning that gave rise to MRSA in British hospitals ...

Competition doesn't mean go for the cheapest bid.....