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Makes sense, supply and demand. However more likely suppliers will thin out thereby maintaining prices. We'll probably just discover this after we've irreversibly destroyed the ocean floor that lies under the north pole.
If you want to buy the equivalent in oil shares for electric cares then buy shares in lithium mining. Particularly from those companies operating in South America. Fill your boots.Last edited by scooterscot; 19 June 2017, 17:13.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostDon't forget, cars may have rapidly replaceable standard format battery modules, charged en-mass in high-current automated underground silos and replaced in a jiffy by simply pausing the car over a dispensing point. One rapid click-clunk-clunk-click and the old module will be whipped out and disappear and a fully charged module whipped in to replace it.
Cars might even be able to do it on the move, like a high-tech version of those water troughs from which steam trains could replenish their water without even stopping.
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Originally posted by MordacThere would need to be hundreds of those supercharge points at all motorway service stations, and at peak times like Christmas there would still be queues. ...Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostI agree, 30 minutes charging is way too long, can you imagine Bank holidays !! and lets face it, in reality it it will probably take more like an hour to recharge, ...
Cars might even be able to do it on the move, like a high-tech version of those water troughs from which steam trains could replenish their water without even stopping.
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Originally posted by squarepeg View PostAnd the electricity used to charge your car comes from the fairies' bottoms, of course.
"A blustery start to summer has helped the renewable energy industry to its highest ever output as wind turbines and solar panels help to meet more than half of the UK’s electricity demand.
National Grid’s data at lunchtime on Wednesday showed that solar panels produced around 7.6GW of electricity while wind farms generated 9.5GW of power.
In addition, the UK burnt 2GW of renewable biomass, made from waste wood, and produced a modest amount of hydro electricity to help squeeze traditional power plants off the system."
UK sets new renewable energy record as wind and solar surge
Accumulating energy in batteries that will be in every car might also help in the event of issues with energy - just hook up your car to your house electric system and iPhone stays on, maybe I should patent this...
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Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post[...]
With petrol you: Fill Up, drive, drive, drive , drive, oh I'm nearly empty, Fill Up ....
With electric you: Charge overnight, Drive, Charge overnight, Drive, Charge overnight, drive ....
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostI hadn't considered that, but it's a very good point.
"I'll be there a week on Tuesday guv, maybe Wednesday, no later that three weeks on Thursday, no not Thursday, the labourer signs on on a Thursday"
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostDo you think there would be any economies of scale if they didn't dig up the road 100k times for each individual charging point, or have you taken that into account with your 10k per point estimate?
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Originally posted by eek View PostYou won't own the car. The current calculations are that it will be cheaper to use a car on demand than it will be to fill a car with fuel...
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostNow that will need a whole different mindset. Insurance, for example, will be a minefield. If your self driving car crashes, how do you prove it wasn't your fault for insurance purposes? I don't think any of this has even been considered.
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Originally posted by Guesstimator View PostYou're not expected to have a car.
The future doesn't lie with people having their own cars but you calling one and it self driving to your house then to wherever you want to go.
TaaS like the report says...like CityCar or ZipCar or whatever they're called but times a gazillion.
There'll be a lot of resistance but tbh I think it makes a lot of sense across the board.
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Forget charging points on motorway services, they can provide electricity overhead on motorways like how a dodgem car works.
Though they'll go with the under tarmac induction method just so they can spend another decade with roadworks all over the place when they've finished the 'smart' motorways.
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThat's what they say about Fusion power.
I doubt whether the problems are surmountable, you're fighting "basic physics".
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostIf everyone who currently uses internal combustion switched to electric in my area, we'd need a charging point every ten feet or so on virtually every road in the borough. Nice idea, but not practical I'm afraid.
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