Reply to: That will teach them to vote Labour

[Bacchus]

Maybe all conspiracy theories should be combined into one.

On second thoughts, some already do that, it's all the fault of the Jews. Or giant lizards. It all points to Zeity!

Hmm, a sort of unified field theory for nut-jobs. I like it. We can make suity the grand-wizard!

[shaunbhoy]

I know the government departments I did work for at the time paid them separately. I checked up because I was trying to see the claim trail if I threw hot coffee or similar on someone.

Bloody outreach workers................all the same.................

[SueEllen]

Thanks. NHS trusts pool most risk. Non-Clinical Claims

NHS trusts in England

Feck knows what they do in the rest of the UK.

I know the government departments I did work for at the time paid them separately. I checked up because I was trying to see the claim trail if I threw hot coffee or similar on someone.

[northernladyuk]

Individually.

You can do some digging via Google to find out what types of organisations tend to self insure.

Public bodies are exempt from many laws where if you are a private company you have to have insurance.

The only other organisations* who also self-insured are bus companies. This is one reason bus companies have so many CCTV cameras on their buses.

*There are probably a few more but those where the ones I was interested in when I looked it up.

Thanks. NHS trusts pool most risk. Non-Clinical Claims

[SueEllen]

Interesting - it was known since the 90s the tower blocks were death traps https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/...205197.article

[SueEllen]

Does each council self insure individually or do they pool risk?

Individually.

You can do some digging via Google to find out what types of organisations tend to self insure.

Public bodies are exempt from many laws where if you are a private company you have to have insurance.

The only other organisations* who also self-insured are bus companies. This is one reason bus companies have so many CCTV cameras on their buses.

*There are probably a few more but those where the ones I was interested in when I looked it up.

[northernladyuk]

Councils, like other public bodies, tend to self insure.

Does each council self insure individually or do they pool risk?

[SueEllen]

The building is still burning.

[SueEllen]

No, it is very much in the interest of the freeholder to have it burnt down, claim on insurance and re-develop it a luxury flats.

Councils, like other public bodies, tend to self insure.

[Paddy]

There is some truth to this, because had the building been owned and operated by a private company with a brand, such as Virgin for example, then it is very much in the financial interest of the company to prevent fires or other similar problems from occurring. This is because of the huge loss of money resulting from the reputational damage to the company.

Whereas if the building is owned by the public sector, the inevitability of corruption and back handers results in a reduction in safety.

No, it is very much in the interest of the freeholder to have it burnt down, claim on insurance and re-develop it a luxury flats.

[xoggoth]

Maybe all conspiracy theories should be combined into one.

On second thoughts, some already do that, it's all the fault of the Jews. Or giant lizards. It all points to Zeity!

[SueEllen]

The councillors knew what to do the housing department is an arms length organisation allowing the council to be protected.

It also meant that both the council and housing department could delay and ignore complaints by blaming each other. That bit will no longer wash.

Part of it is to do with the government. Housing trusts where promised and given more money than being owned straight by the council. It was all to do with the ideology of having no social housing in public hands. That changed in the last couple of years so it makes no difference.

Anyway the directors of the Housing Trust or construction company can be done under H&S legislation depending what the fault is.

Though it is likely the government will bury this report as well in a fear no company will take on refurbishment of tower blocks.

I don't know why they don't do what Labour started - knock them down and start again. It is well known those tower blocks are dodgy since Ronan Point collapsed. They were all put up in a hurry.

[PurpleGorilla]

That will teach them to vote Labour

Thought this was interesting data:

[shaunbhoy]

eh you've all lost me

Milan.

Milan in "epitaph authoring" mode

[eek]

Just occurred to me this time the individual won't be found as they would have learnt from Dame Shirley Porter about what not to do.

The councillors knew what to do the housing department is an arms length organisation allowing the council to be protected.

It also meant that both the council and housing department could delay and ignore complaints by blaming each other. That bit will no longer wash.