Reply to: Official (if AtW allows) Labour Manifesto Thread

[BrilloPad]

Mrs BP and her friends are spitting mad. One sentence on children with SEN. 4 paragraphs on gay rights.

[contractorinatractor]

Are they still pledging the 10,000 extra police officers which Diane Abbot had fully costed?

Is this more or less of an incident than a promised reduction and eventual abolition of 'The Defecit'? It isn't happening and was a con to get you to sign-up and authorise a Conservative idealogy against the poor, disenfranchised, and disabled. Most people would say an extremely minor gaff in comparison!

The Tories went on an austerity drive, denigrating the truly disabled and truly dis-enabled, and you lapped it up. When I read comments such as yours, above, it reminds me that you prefer to concentrate on isolated gaffs than the true ethos of the party you are about to vote for, assuming you vote based on the posts you make on this forum.

How to change your mind? Go do charity work for different charities involving abuse, homelessness and people who've been dealt a bad hand in life, often due to bad parents/partners. I assure you it will change your appreciate of your own life and the way in which you view other people who aren't in as good as position as yourself.

One attitude: "tough luck for them!"
Correct attitude: "Let's enable those people to get back on their feet."

Although many are in wheelchairs and can't do so; they will soon receive the same paltry amount someone on Job Seeker's Allowance. It takes them two or three times as long to get ready in the morning for work, due to the difficulty of living their life, and that is WITHOUT attending prejudiced job interviews that they can often not receive due to a physical condition they did, more often than not, not choose and did not want.

Cheers bro.

Oh, and I notice your type also don't seem all that bothered that the UK enables multinationals to avoid appropriate corporate tax by maintaining your Gibraltar and Cayman islands. Little seems said of that these days - paradoxical.

[AtW]

Has revenue rocketed with the cuts over previous years?

Nope.

Big boys don't pay CT, so reduction is direct "loss" to Treasury, which is why they massively increased dividend tax (plus to drag pensioners who were forced to invest into shares after bank interest dried up).

[AtW]

I think we should adopt the Estonian model. No Corp Tax on profits, instead you tax the distributions. Encourages investment. Imagine 0% Corp Tax but 27.5% Dividend Tax instead.

Imagine unicorns are flying with pigs over 4th runway at Heathrow?

That's how likely your idea is...

[SouthernManc78]

I havent read their manifesto as I have no plans to vote for them but if this news is to believed they will be banning umbrella companies if he gets elected
Labour pledges to ban umbrella companies :: Contractor UK

[d000hg]

If CT is increased revenue will go down. They need to cut CT to increase revenue.

Has revenue rocketed with the cuts over previous years?

[chopper]

Govts own figures project big drop in CT over next few years - big boys don't pay any CT anyway, so reducing CT is just leaving money on the table of dirty tax dodging contractors...

I think we should adopt the Estonian model. No Corp Tax on profits, instead you tax the distributions. Encourages investment. Imagine 0% Corp Tax but 27.5% Dividend Tax instead.

[AtW]

If CT is increased revenue will go down. They need to cut CT to increase revenue.

Govts own figures project big drop in CT over next few years - big boys don't pay any CT anyway, so reducing CT is just leaving money on the table of dirty tax dodging contractors...

[MrMarkyMark]

Well May hired a Blairite.

So if Korbyn wants to be more left he's got to look towards the Communist party...

True, how fecked are we

As you said rightly earlier we have seen these higher taxes before, unfortunately they just ended up with a lower overall tax take.

Apart from then consequently not being able to afford it, the rest of the manifesto seems really good o.

[BrilloPad]

If CT is increased revenue will go down. They need to cut CT to increase revenue.

[d000hg]

Diane Abbott math again i see...

30k/per bobby, OKish for salary + erNI, but I guess uniforms, gear, training, HR/admin/back office are free in Laborland

In the grand scheme of things those costs are small compared to salaries and of course you forget these 10k new officers won't be on anything like 30k for several years - they'll start as rookies. And to be honest that level of cost inaccuracy is no worse than we have in our estimates every day. I very much doubt this is the worst issue by a long way - if it is then JC is actually a genius

[SueEllen]

Jeremy Corbyn defends appointment of former communist party member | The Independent

Well May hired a Blairite.

So if Korbyn wants to be more left he's got to look towards the Communist party...

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

Would you expect the Tory manifesto to be more comprehensively costed, or just to say "strong and stable" and that be the end of it?

Probably the latter, what's your point?

[MrMarkyMark]

Jeremy Corbyn has defended the appointment of a former Communist Party member who once expressed "solidarity" with North Korea to his election campaign team.

The Labour leader said he did not believe Andrew Murray was a Stalinist and stressed his "special skills" were being used to "temporarily" help the campaign.

Jeremy Corbyn defends appointment of former communist party member | The Independent

[AtW]

Would you expect the Tory manifesto to be more comprehensively costed, or just to say "strong and stable" and that be the end of it?

Nah, they will just say that they are a party of low taxes...