Reply to: Can we stop paying everyone's Bar tab now?

[northernladyuk]

Pucker up, Buttercup!
EU leaders to insist UK pays its Brexit bills as precursor to trade talks

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...to-trade-talks

[meridian]

oh so if we say they aren't official then its OK?.

Yes, considering that your original quote said that it was official, and made no mention that it was a white paper looking at the future of the EU without the UK.

[NotAllThere]

oh dear looks like you are wrong...

Well, I suggested a possibility. And itdoes indeed turn out not to be the case that the maps aren't faked. But there is no pre-emptive airbrushing. That's just willful stupidity.

The preamble says:

On 1 March 2017, the European Commission presented a White Paper on the future of Europe. It marked the starting point for a wide debate on the future European Union with 27 Member States.

The whole paper is about the future of new EU-27 EU (i.e. the current EU-28 minus Britain), therefore it is correct in that context to leave the UK out of the discussion and indeed the maps. Quite simple and sensible really. No conspiracy, no-one has been caught out, nothing to crow about.

[vetran]

What ? Are you suggesting that Vetran has linked to a load of official complete tulipe because it fits with the way the EU works ?

I will deny it because I don't believe the EU doesn't like us

FTFY

[motoukenin]

Reading in a local German paper about some EU bureaucrat demanding that they move Airbus into the EU as well, already plans for ESA, Euratom and CERN to move out of UK, that is worrying.

CERN, ESA and the European Union - Scientists for EU

[northernladyuk]

Britain airbrushed out of EU maps two years before Brexit | Daily Mail Online





Bit previous...

one can forgive them, the UK would be dark blue which would be embarrassing.

What did Jacob Rees Mogg's nanny have to say about it?

[sasguru]

What ? Are you suggesting that Vetran has reposted a load of complete tulipe because it fits with the way his Brexit brain works, without actually worrying about its validity first ?

That hasn't happened since the last load of tulipe he posted.

That's about the sum of it.

[vetran]

Put the paper within it's context, and you get your answer. These aren't "official European Commission maps". It's right there in the forward:



At some point the EU will start making plans and discussing options for an EU27 without the UK, you can expect the usual tripe from Jacob Rees-Mogg.

oh so if we say they aren't official then its OK? They spent money 2 years before our leaving date producing a complete document excluding us.

I suppose we should be impressed they are thinking ahead, if only they had done that on other things.

[meridian]

Can we stop paying everyone's Bar tab now?

oh dear looks like you are wrong...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...-europe_en.pdf

or have they been hacked by militant Brexit Loving squirrels?


deTestMangler - you are wrong again...

Put the paper within it's context, and you get your answer. These aren't "official European Commission maps". It's right there in the forward:

On 1 March 2017, the European Commission presented a White Paper on the future of Europe. It marked the starting point for a wide debate on the future European Union with 27 Member States.

At some point the EU will start making plans and discussing options for an EU27 without the UK, you can expect the usual tripe from Jacob Rees-Mogg.

[VectraMan]

oh dear looks like you are wrong...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...-europe_en.pdf

I notice that includes the USA, Canada, Russia, Australia, South Africa and Brazil, but the UK is of no relevance to anyone.

[vetran]

Unless - and I know this is really out there - the map is faked. I've not found a document concerning EU unemployment rates for 2017 that has this map, and the latest press release from the EU still shows Britain.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...3-a74703badad4

oh dear looks like you are wrong...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...-europe_en.pdf

or have they been hacked by militant Brexit Loving squirrels?


deTestMangler - you are wrong again...

[PurpleGorilla]

A pity they could not totally remove Norway like on the Euro coins to make it look rude.

Curious how Norway is also shaped like a sperm!

[TestMangler]

Unless - and I know this is really out there - the map is faked. I've not found a document concerning EU unemployment rates for 2017 that has this map, and the latest press release from the EU still shows Britain.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...3-a74703badad4

What ? Are you suggesting that Vetran has reposted a load of complete tulipe because it fits with the way his Brexit brain works, without actually worrying about its validity first ?

That hasn't happened since the last load of tulipe he posted.

[NotAllThere]

Unless - and I know this is really out there - the map is faked. I've not found a document concerning EU unemployment rates for 2017 that has this map, and the latest press release from the EU still shows Britain.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documen...3-a74703badad4

[vetran]

Eurozone countries? CBA to check.

neither could they, we leave in 2019...

Looks like we have been thrown out of the Golf club already.