Reply to: Election crisis

[Mordac]

He studied history at Cambridge. That's almost guaranteed to make you a blithering idiot, if you weren't one before.

So when were you there?

[sasguru]

Oh come off it - You'd love it!

I don't want pitchforks scratching my shiny new Mercedes

[sasguru]

My constituency has been Tory since at least 1868. Even if all the non Tory votes from the 2010 election had voted Lib Dem, the Tories would still have had a majority of over 6,000.

I'll vote Lib Dem, in a vain hope to unseat the odious Chris Grayling but I don't hold out much hope.

He studied history at Cambridge. That's almost guaranteed to make you a blithering idiot, if you weren't one before.

[SueEllen]

I think what will make this election very, very inneresting would be if all the parties who backed Remain were to form a progressive alliance and agree to not stand in constituencies where a candidate of another alliance party has a stronger chance of winning.

That would mean Labour not fielding candidates many places in the south, none in Scotland and, err, well not many at all quite frankly.

What's not to like?

Labour wants to lose their deposits as they really think they can win in constituencies where they had no hope in 2015 and 2010.

[OwlHoot]

.. I really can't find it in myself to have the schadenfreude to enjoy the pain that will cause to the idiots who voted Brexit ...

Oh come off it - You'd love it!

[Uncle Albert]

My constituency has been Tory since at least 1868. Even if all the non Tory votes from the 2010 election had voted Lib Dem, the Tories would still have had a majority of over 6,000.

I'll vote Lib Dem, in a vain hope to unseat the odious Chris Grayling but I don't hold out much hope.

[Pip in a Poke]

I think what will make this election very, very inneresting would be if all the parties who backed Remain were to form a progressive alliance and agree to not stand in constituencies where a candidate of another alliance party has a stronger chance of winning.

That would mean Labour not fielding candidates many places in the south, none in Scotland and, err, well not many at all quite frankly.

What's not to like?

[sasguru]

I've just realised...

Where I live, Labour have led since 1922 and in 2015, polling was

Labour, 53.9%
Conservative, 22.6%
UKIP, 19.7%
Lib Dem, 2.5%

There is no way on Earth am I voting Conservative. I never have and never will, especially not given May's Brexit vision. Distancing ourselves from the EU is a good thing, but I am firmly in the EFTA/EEA camp.

I am historically a Labour voter, but seriously there is no way on Earth am I voting for a Corbyn led Labour.

So here's the dilemma. Voting for 'someone else' (i.e. Lib Dems) is effectively taking a Labour voter away and moving the despicable Tories up the pecking order.

Tactically, I think I'm actually going to have to vote for Labour and that makes me very miserable (I take some comfort in June 8th really really having to be the end of Corbyn's leadership but seriously - who else is there with any crumb of credibility?)

Realistically, I think the UKIP vote will dissolve away and Lib Dems will pick up again (having polled 3.5% and 18.2% respectively in 2010) and we are definately in one of those 'red rosette on a chimp would win' constituencies but.. Dilemma dilemma.

I'm a staunch remainer but I accept Brexit is a given. And like you, given that's the case, I am firmly in the EFTA/EEA camp as it minimises the economic harm (I have arranged my affairs to be Ok and even prosper in a hard Brexit event, but I really can't find it in myself to have the schadenfreude to enjoy the pain that will cause to the idiots who voted Brexit).

My constituency is a Tory stronghold, however the Lib Dems came within 5000 votes in 2010 (obviously having collapsed in 2015).
So for me the Lib Dem vote is a no-brainer.*
There is no issue so important to this country as Brexit and it behoves everyone to hold their nose if necessary and vote tactically in this election.

*I have always voted Tory, cannot bring myself to vote for them this time - they have put the interests of the party ahead of that of the country + the loons have too much power now and are pushing for a hard Brexit that will only benefit them and their chums.

[northernladyuk]

Remember to vote Tory this time. All ballot papers have a serial number and a stored for a statutory period of a year and a day after the election. We must expect and demand in these extraordinary times that parliament will use its sovereign power to order a full audit of all Enemies of the People, saboteurs and other fifth columnists who have voted to frustrate a red, white and blue Brexit.

[TheFaQQer]

Vote for the best person to give you local representation. If that means Labour, then vote Labour; if that means LD then vote LD.

[BlasterBates]

Why bother voting? The Tories said they're going to win. It's all over their newspapers. They said so.

How to get the Tories out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sle=true#gid=0

Neat like it, I reckon tactical voting will be quite popular this time

[scooterscot]

Why bother voting? The Tories said they're going to win. It's all over their newspapers. They said so.

How to get the Tories out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sle=true#gid=0

[barrydidit]

Move somewhere decent. Simples.

^ This

Or, vote for the loonies or an independent or summat.

[_V_]

I've just realised...

Where I live, Labour have led since 1922 and in 2015, polling was

Labour, 53.9%
Conservative, 22.6%
UKIP, 19.7%
Lib Dem, 2.5%

Dilemma dilemma.

Move somewhere decent. Simples.

[AtW]

Because the Lib Dems are the party of low taxation.

They are reasonable - under LibCon rate was reduced from 50% to 45%, but under Tory Scum they put up dividend tax so much that overall higher payments than at Labour time when 50% income tax rate was in place.