Reply to: Finding an experienced iOS developer (perm)

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Typing stuff like

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show ip?

Show ip access-lists.

That would me management, not development. You'd need to know Tcl for that, wouldn't you? No, what I had in mind was this.

[clearedforlanding]

If nobody wants it, then it's not such a great project, is it?

On the other hand, good iOS developers are hard to come by because they prefer to stick to employers/clients who know what iOS development means. I've seen investors from major venture capital firms beg some of the best Android and iOS devs to work for the startups they put money in and the devs said "no", because the startups were badly run and the mobile developers were not being listened to or they were expected to do things outside their remit, like write backend software / implement APIs / do "everything else". You need to realise that you are not that attractive. I can put you in touch with a guy who runs a consultancy specialising in iOS/Android development, but get ready for some bitter truth.

Typing stuff like

show?

show ip?

Show ip access-lists.

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If nobody wants it, then it's not such a great project, is it?

On the other hand, good iOS developers are hard to come by because they prefer to stick to employers/clients who know what iOS development means. I've seen investors from major venture capital firms beg some of the best Android and iOS devs to work for the startups they put money in and the devs said "no", because the startups were badly run and the mobile developers were not being listened to or they were expected to do things outside their remit, like write backend software / implement APIs / do "everything else". You need to realise that you are not that attractive. I can put you in touch with a guy who runs a consultancy specialising in iOS/Android development, but get ready for some bitter truth.

[diseasex]

It certainly is.....

It's tough going finding somebody.

I looked at it while ago . The pay was really low compared to other languages so i didn't skill myself in it.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Theres no such thing as junior iOS developer... it's a niche...

It certainly is.....

It's tough going finding somebody.

[stek]

iOS Apple, iOS Cisco or iOS IBM power VIO server haha??!!

[d000hg]

iOS is in high demand, everyone wants an app making so I imagine a high proportion of iOS developers are freelance or working for app-development companies?

Maybe you need to get someone good and train them, or offer to let them have time to train themselves.

[doconline]

Is the location of your offices a problem? Is there a wealth of local talent available for other roles? Is there another place fairly local to you that attracts the talent instead? e.g. You are based in Peterborough and all the talent heads to Cambridge?

[diseasex]

So if we drop our expectations from a senior mobile developer (for which we have several) and accept somebody junior-mid on the same salary, that wouldn't be in line with market expectations? I actually opened up the role to say quote salary expectations!

Theres no such thing as junior iOS developer... it's a niche...

[northernladuk]

If you're looking for a geek, why not incentivise them with some new dungeons and dragons figures? Or a new Warhammer t-shirt? These people simply aren't motivated by money.

What's wrong with having D&D figures???

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

If you're looking for a geek, why not incentivise them with some new dungeons and dragons figures? Or a new Warhammer t-shirt? These people simply aren't motivated by money.

That's actually not such a bad idea. I think it will get a lot of likes on LinkedIn!

nice one.

[MrMarkyMark]

If you're looking for a geek, why not incentivise them with some new dungeons and dragons figures? Or a new Warhammer t-shirt? These people simply aren't motivated by money.

Agreed, maybe look at updating your office space, also

[barrydidit]

If you're looking for a geek, why not incentivise them with some new dungeons and dragons figures? Or a new Warhammer t-shirt? These people simply aren't motivated by money.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Apparently not.

So if we drop our expectations from a senior mobile developer (for which we have several) and accept somebody junior-mid on the same salary, that wouldn't be in line with market expectations? I actually opened up the role to say quote salary expectations!

[MrMarkyMark]

It's in line with the market and we will consider somebody more junior too. Really not asking for the world here.