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Previously on "Cornish farmers v2.0"

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Exactly... all the money we send to the EU will just disappear into the NHS or something like that, and all the funding local areas receive will disappear because "that's EU money"
    I disagree. I think there will be too much interest in what's happening to the money that "would have been paid to the EU" for any government to simply splash the cash or siphon it away. Indeed, I'd suggest quite the opposite from anyone in government who knows what they're doing - it's high-profile spend, so it will be treated accordingly.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Maybe Cornwall will get more than its fair share of the extra £350 million per week for the NHS.
    Exactly... all the money we send to the EU will just disappear into the NHS or something like that, and all the funding local areas receive will disappear because "that's EU money"

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    How many overpaid EU civil servants did that take?
    Dewdhek dew-ugens.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    How many overpaid EU civil servants did that take? Just another example of how the EU wastes our money finding ways to make us waste ours.
    Correct. I don't see an issue - let them learn Kernowek as a second language at school as the Welsh do, or even as an option. I've been going down on holiday for over 30 years and never heard anyone speak it; it's of limited use other than for winding up Emmets and confusing signposts.

    Given the costs we already have in England of translating booklets into God knows how many other languages, do we really need to add another to the list?

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    IIRC Cornwall is one of the counties receiving the most EU funding (depending what metric one uses) but was above-average in Leave voting.

    Now obviously the EU funding money is basically just money from the UK government passed back from the EU (with a cut taken out) but I am not betting on UK-gov to maintain the same distribution of funding or even same net funding.

    And while the EU may have broken the fishing industry a)fishing levels aren't sustainable anyway b)they also rescued the Cornish coastline by restoring the sea and beaches to some of the best in the world. It was pretty bad back in the day.
    Maybe Cornwall will get more than its fair share of the extra £350 million per week for the NHS.

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  • d000hg
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    IIRC Cornwall is one of the counties receiving the most EU funding (depending what metric one uses) but was above-average in Leave voting.

    Now obviously the EU funding money is basically just money from the UK government passed back from the EU (with a cut taken out) but I am not betting on UK-gov to maintain the same distribution of funding or even same net funding.

    And while the EU may have broken the fishing industry a)fishing levels aren't sustainable anyway b)they also rescued the Cornish coastline by restoring the sea and beaches to some of the best in the world. It was pretty bad back in the day.

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  • xoggoth
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    The Council of Europe criticises the Government – which recognised the Cornish as a minority in 2014 – for scrapping funding of the native language. Just 500 people are thought to be able to speak Cornish fluently but the Council of Europe wants funding to be reinstated
    How many overpaid EU civil servants did that take? Just another example of how the EU wastes our money finding ways to make us waste ours.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    The main thing we can all agree on is the Cornwall will definitely flourish and prosper through the achievement of a red white and blue Brexit.
    Cornwall's looking a better prospect than most counties nqat

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  • northernladyuk
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    The main thing we can all agree on is the Cornwall will definitely flourish and prosper through the achievement of a red white and blue Brexit.

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  • LondonManc
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    Disneyfication of Tintagel Castle? It's a knackered old castle ruin on a weathered promontory with a cave you can get to via the beach below. Not only that but most of the area is run by the National Trust and English Heritage so it's never going to turn into a theme park.

    Cornwall's got a high level of unemployment but that's partly because it has little in the way of large industry and no real commercial centre of note; most in the south east of the county who do work commute across the Tamar to Plymouth.

    There's a resurrection of both the language and the mining industry going on; the former was more out of local pride than any misguided belief that the language should be commonplace. It's a hark to their proud past, just like the mining.

    This is all a bit rich from the EU, anyway, given the way they screwed over the Cornish fishing industry.

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  • Big Blue Plymouth
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    They may need to find a way of broadcasting to the afterlife - didn't the last Cornish speaker die sometime in the 18th Century or is than an urban myth?

    Edit - didn't read properly, but FFS, 500 people speak a "dead" language and the BBC are supposed to translate for them? And people wonder why we want to leave the EU?
    ISTR that was the last person to have had Cornish as their only language. There's a plaque outside the house where she lived. Mousehole, I think.

    Edit: Actually, it is claimed she was the last known fluent Cornish speaker
    Last edited by Big Blue Plymouth; 19 March 2017, 08:50.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It even calls on the BBC to broadcast more in Cornish.
    They may need to find a way of broadcasting to the afterlife - didn't the last Cornish speaker die sometime in the 18th Century or is than an urban myth?

    Edit - didn't read properly, but FFS, 500 people speak a "dead" language and the BBC are supposed to translate for them? And people wonder why we want to leave the EU?
    Last edited by Mordac; 19 March 2017, 00:56.

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  • AtW
    started a topic Cornish farmers v2.0

    Cornish farmers v2.0

    Stop oppressing Cornwall – Council of Europe's warning to Britain

    The people of Cornwall seem unlikely victims of ethnic oppression. But a 
report by the Council of Europe 
has condemned the Government for neglecting the Cornish minority.

    The report into the “protection of national minorities” concludes that the UK needs to do far more for its southernmost county, including reviving Cornish as a language and preventing the “Disneyfication” of such landmarks as Tintagel Castle.

    The 50-page study into Britain’s treatment of national minorities raises serious concerns about the plight of the Cornish. The Council of Europe, set up after the war to uphold human rights and the rule of law across the continent, has expressed misgivings over the neglect of a county that is 
beloved by the rest of Britain for two weeks a year.

    The Council of Europe criticises the Government – which recognised the Cornish as a minority in 2014 – for scrapping funding of the native language. Just 500 people are thought to be able to speak Cornish fluently but the Council of Europe wants funding to be reinstated. It even calls on the BBC to broadcast more in Cornish.


    Stop oppressing Cornwall – Council of Europe's warning to Britain

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