Reply to: Going Dutch

[vetran]

Indeed like the 60 billion Euro bill.

I wonder what's for desert.

don't worry you can have the bill for Holyrood.

[BlasterBates]

as I say if you vote to leave and can encourage the EU to keep you then fine.

Last time Scotland voted to stay.

I would like to see Scotland pay for the next referendum after all its only fair. We also should make clear what you walk away with if you vote to leave before you vote.

Indeed like the 60 billion Euro bill.

I wonder what's for desert.

[vetran]

Not sure that erecting huge new trade barriers by tearing up the trade agreement with the EU, not to mention the other 150 other bilateral trade agreements, and thrusting them down Scotland's throat against the will of the Scottish people is exactly what I would called "devolved government".

as I say if you vote to leave and can encourage the EU to keep you then fine.

Last time Scotland voted to stay.

I would like to see Scotland pay for the next referendum after all its only fair. We also should make clear what you walk away with if you vote to leave before you vote.

[BlasterBates]

so if we get advantageous trading arrangements you are going to refuse them because they were negotiated by Westminster? Did you want to send the subsidy back as well?

Not sure that erecting huge new trade barriers by tearing up the trade agreement with the EU, not to mention the other 150 other bilateral trade agreements, and thrusting them down Scotland's throat against the will of the Scottish people is exactly what I would called "devolved government".

[vetran]

I suppose that's true, if for example the facless UKcrats in Westminster were to dictate Free trade deals onto Scotland without their consent, instead of devolving those powers.

so if we get advantageous trading arrangements you are going to refuse them because they were negotiated by Westminster? Did you want to send the subsidy back as well?

[BlasterBates]

hey if the Scots decide to leave fine, but they probably need to realise they will have to pay their own way.

Lets see if they have the guts to finally leave.

It would only be the UKSSR if we were intent on centralising government not devolving power.

I suppose that's true, if for example the facless UKcrats in Westminster were to dictate Free trade deals onto Scotland without their consent, instead of devolving those powers.

[vetran]

Like the EU is? 😊

indeed.

[GB9]

It would only be the UKSSR if we were intent on centralising government

Like the EU is? 😊

[GB9]

From the story:



A bit like the deranged elderly Brexit voters dreaming of a return to the 1970's



There is no chance Wilders will get a majority. The Dutch are not that stupid.

Is there much difference between Wilders and Sturgeon? Both extreme nationalists.

[vetran]

It is actually fake news, did some checking there was a proposal in Dutch parliament to hold an inquiry about how the introduction of the Euro was handled, the proposal has been declined back in January.
The article in the independent is total tulip

pity the Telegraph got it wrong too.

[Eirikur]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

first stage hey?

It is actually fake news, did some checking there was a proposal in Dutch parliament to hold an inquiry about how the introduction of the Euro was handled, the proposal has been declined back in January.
The article in the independent is total tulip

[vetran]

The question is, which will split up first, the EU or the UK (or would the term UKSSR be more appropriate ):

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-27/pound-falls-as-may-said-to-prepare-for-new-scottish-referendum

hey if the Scots decide to leave fine, but they probably need to realise they will have to pay their own way.

Lets see if they have the guts to finally leave.

It would only be the UKSSR if we were intent on centralising government not devolving power.

[BlasterBates]

The question is, which will split up first, the EU or the UK (or would the term UKSSR be more appropriate ):

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-27/pound-falls-as-may-said-to-prepare-for-new-scottish-referendum

[vetran]

Seems like fake news. Being a former Dutchman myself I still follow Dutch news, there is no mention in any media about this whatsoever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

first stage hey?

[Eirikur]

Seems like fake news. Being a former Dutchman myself I still follow Dutch news, there is no mention in any media about this whatsoever