Reply to: Hmm Chlorinated chicken anyone ?

[tomtomagain]

Funny stuff food.

It's all genetically modified anyway. Carrots used to be purple until the Dutch started messing around with them.

Where do you find a wild herd of Friesian cows?

Wheat? That's just grass with a genetic defect.

Dogs are genetically modified wolves.

Nice big juicy strawberry? Funny the wild ones are tiny. It wasn't until the late 18th century that they became domesticated.

And did you know that a modern hen will lay around 300 eggs a year? Back in the 50's they only laid 100.

Most foods have been losing their nutritional value ( and taste ) over the last 100 years or so driven by a desire to make them bigger and prettier.

[OwlHoot]

In general I see no problem with GM. It goes wrong in two ways IMO:

- Firstly, when it removes the control of seeds from farmers and their cooperative organisations and puts it into the grasp of multinational corporations

...

Another potential problem is cross-contamination of GM crop genetic mods into wild plants, which will happen however much they claim it can't.

If a mod to limit the number of fertile seed generations crossed into grass for example or marine phytoplankton and spread, we'd all be in the tulip big time along with all animal life on Earth.

[The_Equalizer]

The bit that's almost smoking is trout. The chicken & trout combo sounds tempting, but I may try it on the cat first.

According to Captain Beefheart it's actually a carp.

[Mordac]

Smoked trout stuffed chicken on a bed of cat? Even the old man would turn up his nose at that!

[northernladyuk]

The bit that's almost smoking is trout. The chicken & trout combo sounds tempting, but I may try it on the cat first.

Smoked trout stuffed chicken on a bed of cat? Even the old man would turn up his nose at that!

[northernladyuk]

If you keep letting the population increase then sooner or later food quality takes a dive, assuming there's even enough of the stuff.

This country is now only 40% self-sufficient in essential foods, and that percentage is falling all the time.

Expel MF, Shauny and Suity and it rises to 55%

[Mordac]

This country is now only 40% self-sufficient in essential foods, and that percentage is falling all the time.

You want to try Sainsbury's mate, they have 100% of everything I need.

[Mordac]

That's not a trout, it's a chicken!

The bit that's almost smoking is trout. The chicken & trout combo sounds tempting, but I may try it on the cat first.

[NotAllThere]

In general I see no problem with GM. It goes wrong in two ways IMO:

- Firstly, when it removes the control of seeds from farmers and their cooperative organisations and puts it into the grasp of multinational corporations

Entirely true.

- Secondly, some of the weird experimental tulip, like when they combined the genetic code of a sea cucumber with a Scotsman to see if the result would be capable of holding down an IT contracting career in Devon. Very sad to see.

And here we have a spreader of the aforementioned fear and ignorance.

Blanket ban on GM > than relying on some bureaucrat to differentiate between "good" and "bad" GM. If you believe the huge US corporations are pushing GMs to feed the world's hungry, rather than for increased profits at all cost you have to get off the kool aid

Logical fallacy: non-sequitur. Why? From the proposition that "corporations push their GMOs for commercial advantage" it does not follow that "GMOs are bad."

Under your logic, the product of any company that indulges in bad practice and is driven by the profit motive should be banned, and we should also immediately ban all food additives because whether they're good or bad depends on the ability of "some bureaucrat to differentiate between "good" and "bad"" additives.

[The_Equalizer]

If you keep letting the population increase then sooner or later food quality takes a dive, assuming there's even enough of the stuff.

This country is now only 40% self-sufficient in essential foods, and that percentage is falling all the time.

If we accepted cannibalism it might just rise to 50%, or would that be 100%?

[OwlHoot]

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ules?CMP=fb_gu

Anyone for chlorinated chicken and gm foods ?

Post Brexit you can have as much as you can eat

Milan

If you keep letting the population increase then sooner or later food quality takes a dive, assuming there's even enough of the stuff.

This country is now only 40% self-sufficient in essential foods, and that percentage is falling all the time.

[Paddy]

In general I see no problem with GM. It goes wrong in two ways IMO:

- Firstly, when it removes the control of seeds from farmers and their cooperative organisations and puts it into the grasp of multinational corporations
- Secondly, some of the weird experimental tulip, like when they combined the genetic code of a sea cucumber with a Scotsman to see if the result would be capable of holding down an IT contracting career in Devon. Very sad to see.[/LIST]

The goats with spider genes and silk in their milk
Prof Randy Lewis shows Adam Rutherford genetically modified goats at a farm at Utah State University, US, which produce large quantities of a spider silk that is among the strongest substances known to man.
The transplanted gene means the goat produce milk containing an extra protein, which is extracted and spun into spider silk thread

The goats with spider genes and silk in their milk - BBC News

[northernladyuk]

Blanket ban on GM > than relying on some bureaucrat to differentiate between "good" and "bad" GM.

How about we rely on scientists rather than bureacrats. Deal

If you believe the huge US corporations are pushing GMs to feed the world's hungry, rather than for increased profits at all cost you have to get off the kool aid

If you believe farmers are grwoing food to feed the world's hungry, rather than for increased profits at all cost you have to get off the kool aid (and presumably grwo your own food because your motive will be pure).

[sal]

GM covers a huge range. The anti-GM sentiment of the general public is based upon fear and ignorance.

Here's some good GM, that saves life: The Golden Rice Project

Chlorinated chicken/acid washed pork? If the abattoirs are up to standard, are there other reasons these should be banned?

Antibiotics, hormones, additives, pesticides and mad-cow disease practices are more problematic.

Blanket ban on GM > than relying on some bureaucrat to differentiate between "good" and "bad" GM. If you believe the huge US corporations are pushing GMs to feed the world's hungry, rather than for increased profits at all cost you have to get off the kool aid

abattoirs are going for the path of least resistance/cost - if they can use chlorine/acid instead of expensive building/equipment - they will do it.

[vetran]

That's not a trout, it's a Tricken!

FTFY