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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    You know, it strikes me as very odd that until we decided to leave no one thought to question our Politians as to why other nations within the EU has such an easy ride.
    There are campaigning groups always around questioning government policies but it doesn't mean they get answers.

    And if you don't know who they are you need to read more widely.

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  • NigelJK
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    You know, it strikes me as very odd that until we decided to leave no one thought to question our Politians as to why other nations within the EU has such an easy ride.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    Where it really doesn't work.
    It works for those nations fine.

    There not the ones moaning about a mass influx of immigrants claiming benefits and using their health system without paying due to their national governments tracking people and having rules where you have to work in the country before you receive anything from the state.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Get with the program.

    When those in power speak one side has facts and the other side has alternative ones.

    Oh and newspapers lie all the time.
    So you are claiming that multiple publications lied about what the Spanish said?

    Denial strikes again......

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    No it was up to the UK to make it work like Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Germany...

    BTW if you haven't read 1984 it's worth reading.
    Reminded me of the EU. As did the Empire Strikes Back. And One Nation Socialism.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    No it was up to the UK to make it work like Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Germany...
    Where it really doesn't work.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    It's also completely unworkable.

    That's one of the reasons we voted Leave (although not my main reason).
    No it was up to the UK to make it work like Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Germany...

    BTW if you haven't read 1984 it's worth reading.
    Last edited by SueEllen; 26 January 2017, 23:47.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    How can they be alternative facts? The words were either spoken or they weren't. There is no misinterpretation in this case.

    Opinion is open to all sorts, but if you don't believe the words were spoken then step up and say the quotes, in at least 2 publications, were lies.
    Get with the program.

    When those in power speak one side has facts and the other side has alternative ones.

    Oh and newspapers lie all the time.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by Bee View Post
    I already explained to you, This is UK responsibility not EU.
    EU is not ... oh well never mind.
    It's also completely unworkable.

    That's one of the reasons we voted Leave (although not my main reason).

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    FTFY
    How can they be alternative facts? The words were either spoken or they weren't. There is no misinterpretation in this case.

    Opinion is open to all sorts, but if you don't believe the words were spoken then step up and say the quotes, in at least 2 publications, were lies.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Bee View Post
    ... and he is going to ask you again how do you track them.
    Now you understand why leave won?

    A good portion of Brits are very insular and don't ask questions before they vote for things.

    They also think the BBC or some other British news source are the only available news sources you can still get in the UK at the tip of your fingers.

    Well at least we aren't Americans....

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  • Bee
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    It's up to the UK government to work that out as other EEA countries manage to do so.

    If they get caught they are fined or helped to leave. If you are really desperate you put them on a coach and dump them in the relevant country like a former French president. You then get a slap on the wrist from the European Court of Justice.

    The reason EEA residents get preference over people from Australia and Syria is the same reason we get preference in Spain over people from Peru and Syria.
    ... and he is going to ask you again how do you track them.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    We may well know who goes in and out but how do you track where they are? How do you track them down after 3 months? How do you force them to leave? Why should they get preference over people from Australia or Syria?
    It's up to the UK government to work that out as other EEA countries manage to do so.

    If they get caught they are fined or helped to leave. If you are really desperate you put them on a coach and dump them in the relevant country like a former French president. You then get a slap on the wrist from the European Court of Justice.

    The reason EEA residents get preference over people from Australia and Syria is the same reason we get preference in Spain over people from Peru and Syria.

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  • Bee
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    We may well know who goes in and out but how do you track where they are? How do you track them down after 3 months? How do you force them to leave? Why should they get preference over people from Australia or Syria?
    I already explained to you, This is UK responsibility not EU.
    EU is not ... oh well never mind.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    It was said to the FT. I posted the link. Vetran posted a link to the IBT which is very pro EU.

    Are you saying the interview didn't happen?

    There's a lot of alternative facts around today.
    FTFY

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