Reply to: The UK is falling for the far right

[shaunbhoy]

Ffs. You're really getting tedious.

Oh the irony!!

I think you're making the mistake that most pub bores and dullards make.

And I think that YOU are making the mistake of somehow imagining I remotely GIVE a toss what you may think.

[vetran]

Sorry I'm lost. (Probably because I'm not drunk. )

I was merely pointing out that MPs and Royals are seen as symbols of British democracy plus nationhood as well as human beings. So anyone, whether nutter or terrorist, who tries to or actually harms them is seen as threatening British democracy and nationhood in a bigger way than if than if they killed an MP's wife. This is why we don't get upset with flag burning like the Americans do. (If you don't believe me go to where the first star spangled banner is in a museum. )



If you track the populace like they do in other European countries you can then easily chuck out the European migrants you imported who aren't working and can't support themselves as per your country's right under the freedom of movement directive. Unfortunately Blair forgot his history and why we don't have ID cards in the UK - link

you were suggesting a tragic murder by a mentally unstable chap with neo nazi affiliations had something to do with Brexit. It of course didn't, much as remainers would like it too. I pointed out assassination has little to do with reason and attempting to extrapolate something from little information was foolish.

Obviously if you believe you need to be drunk to understand such things you need to take more water with it.

[sasguru]

For all this talk of Germany swinging to the far right, it has become abundantly clear of late that they have completely renounced any predilections they may have had for producing some form of Master Race.

How else can one explain the rather zany fact that they have assimilated scooter, darmstadt, and Milan into their workforce?

Difficult to picture just what THEY bring to the engine room of the fatherland other than comic value.

Behold........an EU Funded video outling the seamless way they have immersed themselves into teutonic culture.......

Ffs. You're really getting tedious. I think you're making the mistake that most pub bores and dullards make. Which is that you don't realise how very dull you've become.
You realise also that you're becoming repetitious?

[SueEllen]

We forget that its actually quite common though most were done for a cause by a group of committed terrorists not by a nutter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_assassinated

The assassin was suffering from mental illness and while he supported Brexit he also had links to Neo Nazi organisations. There was no evidence he had any connection to UKIP that was a link drawn in by various commentators delighted to have an opportunity to smear people.

However the previous ones were caused by Irish terrorists, they killed soldiers & Royals as well. I suppose every time I meet an Irishman I should accuse them of being a murderer because they share the same heritage?

Same for every victim (civilian or Serviceman) of Islamic extremism should I shout murderer at every Hijab?

Sorry I'm lost. (Probably because I'm not drunk. )

I was merely pointing out that MPs and Royals are seen as symbols of British democracy plus nationhood as well as human beings. So anyone, whether nutter or terrorist, who tries to or actually harms them is seen as threatening British democracy and nationhood in a bigger way than if than if they killed an MP's wife. This is why we don't get upset with flag burning like the Americans do. (If you don't believe me go to where the first star spangled banner is in a museum. )

That is what you are doing because you disagree with them.

Bliar made a conscious decision to import as much cheap labour as he could get his hands on. Mandleslime clearly communicated that in a later interview.


The ID cards were to simplify tracking the populace.

If you track the populace like they do in other European countries you can then easily chuck out the European migrants you imported who aren't working and can't support themselves as per your country's right under the freedom of movement directive. Unfortunately Blair forgot his history and why we don't have ID cards in the UK - link

[vetran]

History repeating itself...

yep so what are the French & Germans going to do to fix their obvious problems?

The UK doesn't seem to have too much of a problem.

[darmstadt]

History repeating itself...

[vetran]

So the EU is about to turn far right. And the Remainers want to keep us in this lovely new EU.

But UKIP are evil Nazi's for getting us out of the EU.

Snowflake logic

yep!

Give me a shout when BNP score 24% in elections.... I will get worried then.

[shaunbhoy]

So the EU is about to turn far right. And the Remainers want to keep us in the EU. Wut? Snowflake logic

For all this talk of Germany swinging to the far right, it has become abundantly clear of late that they have completely renounced any predilections they may have had for producing some form of Master Race.

How else can one explain the rather zany fact that they have assimilated scooter, darmstadt, and Milan into their workforce?

Difficult to picture just what THEY bring to the engine room of the fatherland other than comic value.

Behold........an EU Funded video outling the seamless way they have immersed themselves into teutonic culture.......

[vetran]

It's because an MP represents British democracy.

While it isn't fair some people are symbols that represent more than who just being a human. So for example when someone attempted to kidnap Prince Anne they were doing more than kidnapping a person as it was a strike at the monarchy and in turn the British Constitution.




Both those political parties had a chance while they were in government to do things about it.

Oddly Blair's ID card idea was probably him trying to do something by the back door when he realised he fecked up. As other EU countries kick out EU migrants if they can't prove they can support themselves after 3-4 months but you can only do that if they register who they are. (In lots of countries you can simply come back again within 7 days though you have to cross the border to another EU country for that time.)

We forget that its actually quite common though most were done for a cause by a group of committed terrorists not by a nutter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_assassinated

The assassin was suffering from mental illness and while he supported Brexit he also had links to Neo Nazi organisations. There was no evidence he had any connection to UKIP that was a link drawn in by various commentators delighted to have an opportunity to smear people.

However the previous ones were caused by Irish terrorists, they killed soldiers & Royals as well. I suppose every time I meet an Irishman I should accuse them of being a murderer because they share the same heritage?

Same for every victim (civilian or Serviceman) of Islamic extremism should I shout murderer at every Hijab?

That is what you are doing because you disagree with them.

Bliar made a conscious decision to import as much cheap labour as he could get his hands on. Mandleslime clearly communicated that in a later interview.


The ID cards were to simplify tracking the populace.

[Flashman]

From what I read these organisations are actually pretty nasty, They are also getting >10% of the national Vote which is why its amusing they keep saying the UK is racist & Brexiters are a bunch of Nazis.

So the EU is about to turn far right. And the Remainers want to keep us in this lovely new EU.

But UKIP are evil Nazi's for getting us out of the EU.

Snowflake logic

[vetran]

Hard to know if UKIP are that far to the right, or just (contain) unpleasant, self-interested racists. Racism is not inherently right-wing nor the converse, which many seem to claim.

indeed most parties contain unpleasant individuals: many racist, obsessed with Religion , 'fairness' or similar. Now UKIP may have a few racists but without facts (actual percentages in each party) you are just smearing a valid & popular political party.

I'm missing the bit where their policies or actions include racial hatred. That is clear in the BNP story and even in the Labour Party's Antisemitism rows from Red Ken or Jezzy.

Note controlling immigration is not racist however much you want it to be.

[d000hg]

Hard to know if UKIP are that far to the right, or just (contain) unpleasant, self-interested racists. Racism is not inherently right-wing nor the converse, which many seem to claim.

[minestrone]

The issue is that one of our MPs got killed by someone shouting a far right slogan.

Yes that did happen, 1 person in about 50 million white people in the UK.

3 million Muslims in the UK, 1000 of them went to Syria to fight for ISIS.

1 in 3000 compared to 1 in 50 million.

Are you able to rationalise that?

[SueEllen]

plenty of people have been killed by nutters with all kind of extreme beliefs, sad as it is why does her being an MP make any real difference?

It's because an MP represents British democracy.

While it isn't fair some people are symbols that represent more than who just being a human. So for example when someone attempted to kidnap Prince Anne they were doing more than kidnapping a person as it was a strike at the monarchy and in turn the British Constitution.

That may be closer to the money. However it seems to be grass roots rejection of unrestrained immigration and poor integration then politicians reacting to it

Both those political parties had a chance while they were in government to do things about it.

Oddly Blair's ID card idea was probably him trying to do something by the back door when he realised he fecked up. As other EU countries kick out EU migrants if they can't prove they can support themselves after 3-4 months but you can only do that if they register who they are. (In lots of countries you can simply come back again within 7 days though you have to cross the border to another EU country for that time.)

[vetran]

I guess I meant the UK - don't know much about this lot on the continent.

I do agree there is a lot of crying wolf when the figures suggest we are nowhere nearly as racist as the rest of the EU or the world. I believe naked racism among educated people is rare among British raised people.